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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 01/07/1952459 J=-. 7 1952 °i 7:" P.' IROLL C ALL o Present: Cuancilmen A. ' j- S, ]3r,OV)nV fTor',Tcod, cchi-clieCia Slioenalrer, and ...Wyor llycrs. hPPRM. 01? r i e ml ut e s c. c I, I ie aC. �, ) �r joi= ed rINeTt of Dec. 2L"), 2 ( �, )1 77171TI"01JS AID (_"0'T - Z, , - .- , _­­_., 11_� Letter frol the Del i1aestro farftly vd.th the oral of L C rr 8-ant to the fa in its re cent- road and filed. .7 - ortli 7i_,ay Counties Planning Council's r rterly , lotice o " f :A TL ia to be he r n16 at "een "ill Ini,, Jai,, 1.6 1952, read and f . 1 le d. Corriun from the City of Santa Rosa pePtinent to t 'o. e (,- J r f ,11 0 y .r at the- oiwse on I'Coi7y(Tunity P'Lann-li,., hica be con6ucted , Samill Rosa 1 .1i n School on Monday evenin be, Jan. 7. 1952 re-laC. 'Ind f iled,-, Notice from Pred IV. jaeniEIA,, 1-T ipal of the Adult Educatian clay .ses, calling atte*Y%Lion to tii.e fact that Fritz 1 of the Ar4 ms-Courier staff *aili start a new discussion class viiI.*11i L oup tin derstan dlIng o Cor,. problems,, T on, JM1. 9, 1?52., read and filed, MFORT'J" OF CIrJ 011-7—ICIALS: Lctinrr Citir As s i,­ 1f of Person_* ff�ue 1951; fT all. 2, and Jmi. 4,, 1052,, subriitted and filed. approved J-'-'or j pa�T-.iont bv the Actinr Cfty Tliorrar"er Res. z I.I.C.So introduced by COIZ'icwJ._Ir.qan. Jorwood,, seconded by Coixicilman Schoeninifa, apjM clalris ( 2220 to 2294 inclusive)., adopted by 7 affirmative votes. Re - Traffic sin--qs ri 0 =r 1951, under the sip nature of Charles T. Flarshall., P.cting, City j.)o_b'ItInf- out that traff I c rermalatiory signs in the C16 of Petaluma are not standard in maziy cases; teat so si,r, which have been authorized by tine Council are not now in e*NrIstence a- either should be replaced or ordered down by the Council; and that some signs heave been erected viit Council action, read acid filed. iffter disctission of the r..*,atter, the rc­; of Hr Harshall v.."as refr0rred to the Traffic Coi for further study. 10 of tllie Council of ' -he City Of Petaltryla call ad to order by T.:I,r!A7 11 yers, that it is the desire of the CoLaicil wl .. � _tY Vin aid of the public and the press,, to as rioTuch as 'Possible duriw the coLiing year; that any As tal� that 'the comcil had r.,adb-' in the past wer-e not v-ii]Lful ones,, a tlaat he believed that the Council could do a better and PresE-. jol for the City of Petaluma if I vierc more co pjub Ii c criticism from the - IROLL C ALL o Present: Cuancilmen A. ' j- S, ]3r,OV)nV fTor',Tcod, cchi-clieCia Slioenalrer, and ...Wyor llycrs. hPPRM. 01? r i e ml ut e s c. c I, I ie aC. �, ) �r joi= ed rINeTt of Dec. 2L"), 2 ( �, )1 77171TI"01JS AID (_"0'T - Z, , - .- , _­­_., 11_� Letter frol the Del i1aestro farftly vd.th the oral of L C rr 8-ant to the fa in its re cent- road and filed. .7 - ortli 7i_,ay Counties Planning Council's r rterly , lotice o " f :A TL ia to be he r n16 at "een "ill Ini,, Jai,, 1.6 1952, read and f . 1 le d. Corriun from the City of Santa Rosa pePtinent to t 'o. e (,- J r f ,11 0 y .r at the- oiwse on I'Coi7y(Tunity P'Lann-li,., hica be con6ucted , Samill Rosa 1 .1i n School on Monday evenin be, Jan. 7. 1952 re-laC. 'Ind f iled,-, Notice from Pred IV. jaeniEIA,, 1-T ipal of the Adult Educatian clay .ses, calling atte*Y%Lion to tii.e fact that Fritz 1 of the Ar4 ms-Courier staff *aili start a new discussion class viiI.*11i L oup tin derstan dlIng o Cor,. problems,, T on, JM1. 9, 1?52., read and filed, MFORT'J" OF CIrJ 011-7—ICIALS: Lctinrr Citir As s i,­ 1f of Person_* ff�ue 1951; fT all. 2, and Jmi. 4,, 1052,, subriitted and filed. approved J-'-'or j pa�T-.iont bv the Actinr Cfty Tliorrar"er Res. z I.I.C.So introduced by COIZ'icwJ._Ir.qan. Jorwood,, seconded by Coixicilman Schoeninifa, apjM clalris ( 2220 to 2294 inclusive)., adopted by 7 affirmative votes. Re - Traffic sin--qs ri 0 =r 1951, under the sip nature of Charles T. Flarshall., P.cting, City j.)o_b'ItInf- out that traff I c rermalatiory signs in the C16 of Petaluma are not standard in maziy cases; teat so si,r, which have been authorized by tine Council are not now in e*NrIstence a- either should be replaced or ordered down by the Council; and that some signs heave been erected viit Council action, read acid filed. iffter disctission of the r..*,atter, the rc­; of Hr Harshall v.."as refr0rred to the Traffic Coi for further study. 10 LAM GI - C1' Recoirr iena.a';:tor? t F.� E `ion r Or "T57g irlend sd c;oy y' �'° Y� s %� iz ° t a; o ��:� o t�:'���r �� at�� yin Coin ^fission s recorz lendin r=, an ar.ien iet to Zo - Ord T D C S p , r eclas s_tfyim, Li the R42 ar in the blocl, bounded by ".es tern I,vep , Fair St nd :3::a.lcer St. to an R -Z Zone, read and 71ed Other Cit U:ificials it! ly re ?_or i ;s �` - fie �� e o�� � oMe; Foundmaster9 Police Judce; Auu3.tor; T�L°easurer; and Cent:; gal I- IerT_Zit 3.ab eau fl read ma filed. I" ' s.1�rl'UCT10i' �?F OR �. T:'�.T:'GT? A_r- i endrlent to Zon1n Ord. �iY'C �s'if - ' !: � .ice by Councilm Schoentrh sec Cled DY Councilr.. Schvio entitled.,, t� LI O DIiI -d'CB l' ;,_ D_T.?r. ZO.TT'IG U �DIT!Q'C'C I 0. 12- 'I,C.S. TE,CLG1r`3TFY1rI'�IG- TIT R-2 , tip "��. 'li1 TI-m, _ 30U"-JDIi,D L- SI:i STM;7r '� >; TTT?TI '1Vi�tUT�, FATR S FU 'IT i1TID D11I4T'R S! _, , ,'� 0 tL t �,�3 LUIT y0 A was read a :nd ordere posted by 7 affixy.%ative votes. Cc)?ISTDFR:1.7QTI OF LlI`NTFR -1 IS HI D ?3U ;'CTTT,)S Mr, EdvFa -d Fr 2J) ointed City T ib amer of Peta.l.uma introduced by Comcilr,l an Sclilaobeda, seconded by Councilmar, Shoeraker, entitled E dw ard ��� �� (0 of �j Resol a Apo z.nt� ng �rdward .! d C L1'l City y I iana an�3 ?fixing his salav and an ��� 1 oz;, �l,t:e f /r use of pr�..vate automo ileo adopted by 7 a fimative votc,& entitled FI esc "lu c`1ccE:Pt nZ, partial 1`. -c-ase and remise of 7:_roper - fir ulyuE i' lease to Four•t a Distr A.Sricultura1 {- T r .S ^�C i�:�.�; - ? ♦ vl" m CJ.c .t N ov, 14 1951. t9 Re S '1nt roduced by oo ncllr Y? ScT'l mbeda seconded by Ca nc7_lman Shoemaker, c1.earl_n^r r�ronert� of trees and obstTt ctions Fare Stat s� e .�n �,olz- ±ec��`c��:� c�r�.t. le re << se oa: 7 p6r Ton cif 7Re.rror h I'a.rk and the eLGrly construction o. the Ea Peta Fire - tLtior, tll peon, Councilmm, Bro m su , estcd ' c1fie of ` first Gbs ,should be the c R ear of th propertir of trees, fences and other obstrt?cti onsp it Sias proposed that a food de -a of the v.ork of the propenrty co;.il c7. be donee by the Park and Street D epartIments, C /� ,7 [fir t hat [� /� T} y+ (� y1 y _ At wa U�VJL �.L CJ I (rl - �:.LL Lhc.L�t�l l.lt` ' F 1 A ( .i0 A. VU I.IL.LI!Jy �rp r� be as''.ed to lay out the 'building o_1 the Troperty 'and to a.nstmct the City re frardirirr the rE:Tmova.l of trees. florth 7,-)a L eacrze Meet- `ih� (_er.� ?^er1 1t�eci die Cou_ r°il of the J i026� 1952 me'etinr Of the "Orth Pay Division ion of the Leagu'.e of California Cities. 20 4. Pavement on I. A Lve. in eastbound lane just west of 1`entucl inter5ection to be marled '110 ErKPT TuFu 5. East side of Kentticky St.. _ Ia-sliinr-,, ' Prospect St,, to be desi�7m, for .parallol and parl meters 4 t b e reset as needed. 6. Traf Mid roco'-Imandatia-vis of "U'lle 1.1-affic Co. �?mj OtAic llo Department -maid approved of tll following 17. da is vj'hich were 'referred to cii;y -�ttmnra\ re cojir_ientiov Y f or pre,paration of n-eCIOSSc32: len 0 S. 1. A "r10 1;'.1'T TU' sina to be placed on Westex-ft Ave.. at the Sout ! v.-st corner of in er tersecti-on with Kentucky St, .TO RLIGH2 T' I - 2. A -71 si��n to be plar, on at the ; ,t° n.% Kentucicy S A'V--. no rc! 3, n•. ,r of intersectip-n v Uth t . 91 17 0 -avc� o n ­-Istern ' in viestbom, d F lent lane juct east of to be ' IING RIGHT TUM 11 P_ t C 7y _1 ntersoction L1_ __-Tar. . 1 10 4. Pavement on I. A Lve. in eastbound lane just west of 1`entucl inter5ection to be marled '110 ErKPT TuFu 5. East side of Kentticky St.. _ Ia-sliinr-,, ' Prospect St,, to be desi�7m, for .parallol and parl meters 4 t b e reset as needed. 6. Keller St.: from to F'rospect to be desj_,grated for paral.iel on both slcles,, par�izin meters to be*reset as needed. 17. Liberty St. fror.i 1 .7ashin,­tma to 1rospect to be- properly marked for pa-rallel parl (Already desimi.ated Lor Tji­_RTe - oaricin- S. The IT, rninpl oj,, p, - ' - 'I at the nartluTest corner of the k '51 "STOP interse - u 7 oto a �) j -.Ph A.ve. lz� rep"!'_ ace v ith a PEMESTRLU-T 1 and also "RED X 111F painted J.n large letters) on the street. 91 T Approach at entrance o f s eller Street parking lot to be 171' ened �md more clearly =1 10. (releted - no need for it.) 11.1 The I oadin zone in f ront of TolMa-sini Ildvie. Co. be reinstated. (Deleted no nued f or it. `3. Tilstall adequate lightin,--,,, reflector blinkers etc,. in p at intersection of 14restem Ave. avid Stanley Street. It was a7- ,,reed that some improvements were needed here. The matter to be given further study, 14. Install arterial "")TOP" si, on Frospect St. at Southwest corner of intersection with Kentucky St. 15. Install' arterial "STOP" on D StrOet at Southwest comet of intersection Ah Fourth S1. Regarding the recor--imendlations u[.' the Police Dept. under date of Dec. 17 1 the folloviln.rr decisions v!ere made: a. The request of 1.1m, Caul_-Cield fox a loading zone on Lal Howard Sto be denied; b. The request ioadfimg zon co The request I lain 3t be d o Me loadim L) of the Petalunw, Co-0i)crat. Creamery for a on the south side o3: '�Iestern Ave. be 7anted; of Goree Cleaners for a. loading zone at 800 �ranted . 4 2 zone for Golden* E,agle %1illin! Co, on '.AshinCton 4 6 5) Strct.;t be r-11ithorized e4 That at the nc,r School, be Painted; fe That red . in trusLZesc: area 'be repai_ltedg That red : Il Tlaa,t 3 - mi removed - Ui order 1-I. ' a 3e er Drive-In 1,T 11 �u1: at titers in Front of 2 to r ^ia. r oom for dri.' ;Post Office be enforced, Kentucky Sts be vewa,y, as requested by 5- F, - to Ime 'minted for F:'7_] er st.o - oar lo t C� u%.oi � n S` i ro �eczo su ^ E st�u I�aC s E ;ns be J,5alntcd for the Keller St. off - street pa.rlciri!; lot containing the same :inf ormation that a,: ,, -'ea x°s on the par ;i:lnr r,heters, in order that the pi,bl__+ may ?mots the city's charge: f oh: parl��irz there.. This and . the mdtter of refurbishing the off - street pa•rk3.ng lot at 2nd and P Stx�cets ..:- j s° x•e eh ^red to the neyii.y ,q?po'� a. ited City 1:Tannerfs f 1 I.e. l i. ceYbsLi!' o 1 1 .ec1ney nrry ai't rec�rese zrr c�az�e .te venC.in nac,ni c operators, a ddresseC the Council on the subject of ci- 111rette vending machine"s,. 'He su ,,esteC. o. ���os.s recei:l?ts tyY�e. of i:i tense i_lstead of a pex r.1�ichi.ne tax. fle alm sesre�ation Li the l.lcense ordinance of cigarett ven.c3! n,r; m ach i . ­ ,es from r;a.clhic� e s wlc i.ch do �:� of vend tan ;i Ul e ? rer- 6 e. shatter r,as referred 'to the Cit,,,7 Atto for cons i(Ierat:i.on °01' i�Ctt�7_t10'�.cll CCJ?1�x'lY7U �?.Ux1 �,o t,lle�. Cth�ber uc r � ��r - c1Urls'i. - ,,m l,•s aecoramlons ® treasurer, Pe:talma Cho:. ibex of Com_%:rce, a(Mressed the Council in a plea fo •, funds to Delp Jay for Cost of Chx°i.str as decorati.ms, soM6 of r;?lisch were da:T1a ed durhngg recent heavy s i.orrms. It v: h.s no:i.nted out that' '''500© 1 beer, cudgeteu by the City to the clhx•i L)ud ;e t for Chrilstmas Christmas cle corati ins "he ?.i tter of a'd.ltional financial assistance vms taken under consider, ti.on. Contrib to creed of . SS Rogers T' Ze""su.�t .gin o G�uccr.i Si�crlal;:er that the City r:al�e :� co?�.I,r=bution to tlhe cretr of l:l�e ��SeRoers �7SS approved by the Council 3-111d referred to the C . :ty Attorney for prelmration of a resolution thereon.. 11r. Ixthur L. Fautley, 0 12th Ste a.cldz';,lssed the Council nslulhrr that a retaynin ;x.11 or tube be built by the City at the end of 12th St. as a protection for property oviners and cllil:dren who cross the creek en route to the hew TAc1 eax° School© . 7. le al ' so called attention to an exposed sewer 1i.ne recently built on property nuttin-, tile' creels - .' Oar;as^ rlalra., Supt of .'treets,iraa I;ed to invt:sti ;ate the }:hatter mnC, -report - bac ,: 'to the City Council. Coianci 1.h n sror:•rooC: su: _!7e sted tha%, a .foot bride across - exec creek at• this Point rroul.G be des:irab { e. ADJOUT L- T� I11: :'here bein no further business to meet:l.`n,!� , the rleeting was adjourned to Honda t2! .our of 7 :30 P 1 1.1"D . ,Q �•" ,r ti ter -.f r A core. before the Jmn. 1.4- 1952 et 4 Storrs Dx °aina ge Problems p..,TT = ` �°;�. I "�c ,, 7 - 0 odep rhea a addressed the Counci l :gin revav °d to scti- backing up under his home. Iie s ested-,,that it r-Aght be caused by the property u hers in the vicin�,.ty who ha ve '*J! -eLr r000f dre Lns Connec into the c3 sewer line,, Causing the overflow of the six Inch seae li ne on Bodega ;1ve. I ",r® Allen BergstX%on,, 325 BodeQa Ave. also reported seriou dra�ina,ve conditions at his res:>_aence. He stat that w hen the se�, :.swa was cleared i t rorked v' bat vrhe it rained the st; allso 1Jc?CI aCI u17 indicating poor drainag Uter discussion of the drain. e problems presented it i:ras deterr.iined that the; trouble mic.ht be clue to the additio load in the sa`?1tar7f sever sines from drains. Councilman ShoerAlcer su;;, ,-ested that a. canvass be made of the residences by the Building Inspector and a report made by him to the Supt, of CAreet for recor_imendation to the City Council.. - Cca.CJ 1m, -q Schwobeda su greeted a p i licity ca - mma3. n to i.nforr. the 11i ulic that it is to have the roof drains cayrqected to tYie sanitary sev,"er lines, I�Y'o PXthur Fautley, 303 - 12th St. informed the Council that the ;round is erroding froirl the ban'Ks of the tree?; near. his hOME'. lie requested a tube or a retaininrr wall be constructed to corTect the situation and stated that if 'the city was to spend .1C�Ylcfyr o:�� a loot bridge and fence, l'rhi c h `��`ai ld not correct his sd.'tuat_1_on, that a petition e ^could be presented asking for the contirnaa:tion of Twel th St He also ca l:le d the Co unci l 'is attention. to the sewage ;'rh! ch is being, e mptied into this creek.-. Councilman Schoen►_ngh informed !Fsm Fautl,ey that the re-commend at .on. of I,'r. G- l:a'zn regarding the Foot bridge aand fence had nothing to do with the set�-rer situa.tiona.. T.W, Alvin Christensen. 501 11ebster St., cc;.onplained of the dr ainaCe at the corner of Vebster and Dena Sts ©a vhl.ch is caused by the rocks and send ;rasped doiin from the fll -elsen quarry. Ile asked Thai a storm drain be orected. The above complainants Jere asked - to be patient until_ such time as a. City Erb; J.neer and full tinie City tTanager their positions. Re -- CaucLt;; rleetinsTs c ' ee ti s1J uested that caucus meetin s be _geld in the :al"ten oon before Council meetin s and be open to the public. It tiaras decided that deci sion. on this type of meetin7 be ref erred to 'the nevi City Tanager. C ounci lm an Adar.-is stated that h,- did. not favor caucus sessions. ADJOUP 1131,T There being no further busLie ss the meeting t•ras a.djoinmed.. n n , -, r. o 40 in troduced entit1ed adopted. by Donation o -^ �` 0 to crow o u.s ,,s,,Rakers L wa tl C by Cou nc'i ".,Ta l Sbc)ern ker, sec onded by Coun :laid Adaris,, "Tie solution pr °ovidins; for 6onation of '"50000 .,o the Uo Q Rogmrls cre fund 7 aff irrvztive 'votes. Res,, a ro riafiin "'1 000 to City of stoc:ton � "or use aFaerl IF ex )ens :s o o os an;� �co isn o 0 1': E. lies. � introduced by Coy mci l .ir n rloniood, seconded. ' by C ^dark entitled "Resclu Lion appropriating the sum of 4`,100 ®00 tto be paid to the City off' Stoclf;on for use in deferr•in,; the expenses of opposing the application of Pacific Gas E'Iectric Company f on rate increases, includi n.g, the City of Petaluma. Y, defeated. by the fol.lova3ng vote Ayes a Councilmen Adams is an No.nvood 9 N oes a Councilmen prom Sol�oens:t 'h to schwobeda Shoemaker, and I fay.or Ter a ;;Zayor Leland II. '_'yers expressed'i:is appreciat -an to all city deanw nI.s r: or their excellent, rrorIc :_ handling:, caused by stor da?mago ,,Pro I,lor '?, Treasur of 'th Petal C "lber of Commer wa requested by Counur ilman Adar?s to present to the City Clerk 011 bills, and figures for repairs to Christmas decorations dan�a ed by a recent s�i'Orm. CoUnc:ilnan Nororood asked what disposition had been rI.a.de con- ernin,r; the r�a.intr::na ce of street signs. The City Cl.erlc was asked to invesi;iga- to i action had been taken by the fon7ier City A `anger in the mat t `ccro Re i:l is for°. exempt use ny meters Uourzv��n °�or=i�roo as :ec``e`rat is �om�i3_ttee study the use and misuse of parking meters by cars used by z?orll^cien stating thaat' if certain persons are to be exeripted there should be a definite policy set up. City attorney Karl Brooks informed the Council of the system uscd in `pan dose whereby per'im_ts are issued for r ?xeigpt use of parking Meters. The City ,Clerk eras' asked to secure infor ation from the City of San Jose rega,rdint; sane„ Pe _ cond of bud Tat Coiuici n ', 5- ;be a rou, -ht to the attention of the Council the limit d :c"'uads left ix1 bucket sect - iron 140.120 for Recreation part— time help. After discussion it aas decided th the unencumbered balance report of the City Cleric and Auditor be studied by the Council and in cases of limited funds that the dep arty ent heads be called in for explanation. The Clerk was directed to request the Recreation Director to be present at the next meetin of the Council.. Councilman Brotirn su� est:ed that a monthly progress repor -c be submitted from each department so that a check could be made of departmental_ expenditures. hla.ysjr 11yers stated that he thou_ ht that the n.eti°r City 117anaber intended to set up such a report;., 30 471 I�Tonthly report of tie Librarian.. read and filed.. SenTll-annual report of the Recreation Dept. submitted wi(a f iled. TA'-J` OF ORDE-TICICES. Amend. to TVaJ'fic Ord. . 1-T C S,_ Shoemaker, seconded C b y Councilman Schoenin� ent"Ltled,, -'r r) 013 OF TIE" Cl'_ OF METAUPM A7..'_MDIFG - -T T T -Up T -1 jPO.1T 1 TE T 42 OF TI 1 7 ;` T.RAFI ORD. I ' 0, 82 ..c. S. FOR T_ NG 27 01YES IT: TI DE C ITI Y. OF ESTABILT ' SI of "a Dl_ PARK11i was read and ordered p osted by 7 affirixative votes. *?D C7� ADO OF 0T T 6S. ,n,mend,, to .onin-, Ov^d. duced by Cowicl.lman Schocninr,!%, seconded by Cou 11main Schviobeda,, entitled, " 1ps 1�. .!. N 01:6)r, NXE ATE IIDI14G Za.11140- ORDELV 0 S. - C. _TE TI-IF'.P, R-2 ART.: - j . IN TI-E, BLOCK 1-30MMED BY �7 " f�J'T E T'UTGLJsH STRT �E``TEI 1�-J FAJR STIT FT D B 2�r. 1, STT-,'F,"T TO 1'�I _3 70ITT ' 0 it carnia up re mid was adopted by 7 aff"'irmative votes, CO•S1DEIRATI�)A'J OV SI S: UiNFIN - .''500v to C.of C., for advertisin,,- includa Xmas Decorations Res, introduced by Couaicilc?ian Sohoc'-ninEh_, seconded by. counci Ir. ,, ,Dn Tgorriood,, entitled,, "Res0lution prov1 - ding for ii payment of the sum of ""'500,00 to the Petaluma Chamber of Coo-nerce to be used for Vi-e purpose of advertisiw_r for 'the City of PetalUm.a., the cost of Ch S ristmas decoration adopted by 7 af_firj�ative votes,, DesinnnatiYL Loadiag, Zones a C CPS a introduced by Gouric:'_lman scams, seconded by Councilman Schi. entitled', "Resolution d'"sirnatin:1 loaCiyj zones for Toriiasin C_ C.-3 L Hardware. Company; Petralumca Co-opera-tive Crean-ory,, Goree Cleaners nr r 0 .. and Golden 1 _4"agle I-Tilli g C adopted by 7 affirmative votes, Res. NIC.S. intl%oduiced by Council Shoer_rm!.er seconded by Councilm, Schoeningh,, entitled,, "Resolutibn detern.ing locations at which Stop Signals shall be erected." - adopted by 6 af:firi votes,, 1 negative vote. Si is authors zed to - orevent traffic enterin.- Kentuclzv St. Res.. iY909 !T.C.S. introduced, by Councilram: Schviobeda, secon L� ded y Counci -Pan Schoe►lngh,,, entitled,, ' Girectin-7 Chief of Police to install sir for 'Gh . purpos e '- _' e of preventing traffic enter- ing K1.entuc1qj St, from the intersection at !',resteyii Avenue." adopted by 7 affirmative votes. 2q