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June 26, 2001
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Planning Commission Minutes
June 26, 2001 - 7 :00 PINT
Commissioners: Present: Barrett, Broad *, Glass, Monteschio, Vieler, Vouri
Absent: O'Brien
* Chair
Staff: Mike Moore, Community Development Director
Tiffany Robbe, Assistant Planner
Anne Windsor, Secretary
ROLL CALL:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of June 12, 2001 were approved as amended.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
DIRECTOR'S REPORT: None.
COMMISSIONER'S REPORT:
Commissioner Glass: Commented on Council Member Moynihan's suggestion of spending $8
million for streets at City Council PCDC Meeting of 6/25— Commissioner Glass thinks
redevelopment best reinvested — maintenance not wise and prudent.
Commissioner Vouri: Complemented staff on monthly report.
Misunderstanding regarding discussions about updating Zoning Ordinance and contacts with
developers about volunteering to assist City with this process — wanted to save city money — not
intended to bypass Council or Planning Commission.
Clarified position regarding comments on gravel mining in the Russian River and impacts to
drinking water.
Challenge'to fellow Commissioners and citizens to a beautiful brown lawn contest.
CORRESPONDENCE: Resolution from City of Rohnert Park. E -mail from David Keller re:
Agenda items III and IV.
APPEAL STATEMENT: Was read.
LEGAL RECOURSE STATEMENT: Was noted on the agenda.
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NEW BUSINESS:
PUBLIC HEARING:
June 26, 2001
I. REDWOOD OIL, 421 Petaluma Boulevard South. Proposed demolition of an existing
carwash facility and construction of a new 2,879 square foot convenience mart and
restaurant.
Planner: Irene Borba
The applicant has requested a continuance of this item to the July 24, 2001 Meeting (see
attached letter).
A motion was made by Committee Member Barrett and seconded by Committee Member
Monteschio to continue Redwood Oil to the July 24, 2001 meeting.
All in favor:
Commissioner Monteschio: Yes
Commissioner Glass:
Yes
Commissioner Broad:
Yes
Commissioner Barrett:
Yes
Commissioner Vieler:
Yes
Commissioner Vouri:
Yes
II. G &G CENTER - SPRINT ANTENNA/FLAG POLE, 730 Sonoma Mountain
Parkway. The applicant proposes to install a PCS facility atop the G &G Market. The
facility would consist of three antennas disguised inside a 6 -inch diameter, 12 -foot tall
flagpole atop the pyramid above the entrance to G &G Market. The flagpole /antenna on
the roof would reach 56 feet 8 inches above grade. The proposed equipment area would
be located on the southeast side of the market building. The equipment area would be
uncovered and consist of three stucco- covered walls and a gate. The equipment area
would be approximately 16 feet 8 inches wide by 17 feet 4 inches long.
Planner: Tiffany Robbe
Tiffany Robbe presented the staff report.
David Hardy, Whalen & Co., representing Sprint. Thought staff report was solid and the
conditions acceptable. Mr. Hammet's report supports that there is no public health issue.
Commission questions:
Commissioner's questions addressed:
1. Health and safety issues of shoppers and nearby residents.
2. Power of waves where they overlap
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3. What happens when technology is more advanced and Sprint doesn't need. Is it sold?
Are Sprint antennas still in use?
4. Does Sprint have plans to add other antennas in other areas to improve service?
5. What goes in box on ground pad — does that put out anything?
6. How is flag maintained?
7. Approved flag pole antenna on Petaluma Hotel in August, 1997, however, still have
no flag pole 4 years later — what will you do to bring into compliance?
Responses from David Hardy and Engineer Bill Hammett:
1. Exposure is 50,000 times less than federal standard — not familiar with Press
Democrat article regarding brain tumors. Exposure levels for this project are far
lower than Federal standards and far lower than levels applied in scientific studies.
2. Where waves overlap power is less than 800 watts. Signals emanate outward, not
down, and diminishes as you get further from antenna — roof of market would block
waves.
3. Antenna couldn't be sold unless all of Sprint is sold together. Applicant does not
know of any antennas not in use.
4. Will continue process to include other sites in order to improve service
5. Sophisticated radio equipment in box on ground pad
6. Flag will stay up all the time due to slope of roof — no hardware noise because
flagpole is fiberglass — is 250' from nearest home.
7. Flagpole on Petaluma hotel will be in compliance August, 2001.
Public Hearing was opened:
Sheila Weisberg, 2 Sheffield Place: Directly opposite proposed site — house fronts on Riesling.
Went to meeting at the college, raised complaints and sent letters to Ms. Robbe. If too
controversial at Junior College, why not too controversial here. Need another site to be
considered. Many factors to consider: Noise — already have noise from air conditioning,
employees, blowers, etc. from shopping center. Did research in Marin, it is clear that they are
not approving antennas in residential areas. Possibly locate on top of PG &E towers. Read a plea
to Commissioners.
Sally Noble, 5 Stratford Place: Do not want antenna — understand it may not be a health hazard,
however, don't think it can be good for children. Not possible to have a long term study since
we haven't been using cell phones that long. Proposed flag will be in wind tunnel. Asked
Planning Commission to deny.
Kevin Ancic, 744 Riesling: Already have a lot to deal with regarding traffic and noise. Don't
know enough about this yet — Sprint will be ok without the antenna here.
Meg DeLapp, 13 Stratford Place: Sprint says there is no gap in service — why do we need this?
Know government has been wrong before — why take the risk? Look into getting antenna further
away from residential areas.
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Steven DeLapp, 13 Stratford: Referred to letter in packet - incomplete staff report — don't have
to make a decision until November. Many problems with shopping center and developer. Went
over points from letter.
April Ansberg, 5 Sheffield Place: Want to go on record that I oppose the Sprint antenna.
Public hearing closed.
Commissioner Glass: Not comfortable to interpret City Ordinance. Hope Sprint can meet the v
August l deadline of hotel. If there is a better location, let's do that. Not ready to move
forward. Accept the mathematics on wattage. City council needs to clarify their ordinance.
Earthquake safety is also a concern.
Commissioner Monteschio: Agree with Commissioner Glass. People who live there and have
Sprint say they have good service. Do not want to rush into this. Want clear direction from City
Council.
Commissioner Barrett: Have a couple problems. Hotel Petaluma should have been in Sprint's
mind — have existing flagpole that is not used. Have an issue with noise from flags. Do not
have confidence in Sprint regarding follow through.
Commissioner Vieler: Don't have a problem with most of project. Don't feel comfortable
voting in favor of right now because of health concerns.
Commissioner Vouri: Regarding the Ordinance - do not find the proposal to be in violation of
the Ordinance. Would be a disservice to send this to council. Alternative that has not been fully
explored is the Gatti property.
Mike Moore: If Gatti is willing — Sprint needs to work with Gatti.
Tiffany Robbe: Land has agricultural zoning — would have to be rezoned — property owner has
not expressed an interest in rezoning.
Commissioner Vouri: Agree with public to work with Gatti and try this alternative location.
Commissioner Broad: This proposal is for a minor telecommunication facility?
Tiffany Robbe: Because of the wattage issue, staff is treating this project as a major facility.
Commissioner Broad: Agree with Commissioner Vouri — amending ordinance to allow in
agricultural land as long as telecommunication use is secondary to agricultural -use.. Want to be
cautious — locate as far away from residences as possible. Stipulation that overall use would not
compromise the land use.
Want Sprint to look for another location, in particular Gatti site, even if it means staff bringing
forth an amendment to the ordinance.
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Mike Moore: Am not sure we can amend the ordinance in time limit of permit streamlining.
Reopen public hearing:
David Hardy: Client would probably prefer a decision.
Closed public hearing.
A motion was made by Commissioner Vouri and seconded by Commissioner Barrett to deny an
application for a Conditional Use Permit based on the inability to make findings and that there
are alternative locations that would be superior to the proposed site because it would result in
less impact to surrounding land uses.
Commissioner Monteschio: Yes
Commissioner Glass:
Yes
Commissioner Broad:
Yes
Commissioner Barrett:
Yes
Commissioner Vieler:
Yes
Commissioner Vouri:
Yes
COMMISSION BUSINESS
III. Discussion of suggested modifications and adoption of transcript information and
memos from January 1999 Central Petaluma Specific Plan Meetings into the draft
Central Petaluma Specific Plan.
Mike Moore: Referred to his memo of June 18, 2001 and turned meeting over to Commissioner
Vieler.
Commissioner Vieler: Asked who was in attendance at May 15, 2001 meeting — what was
process in eliminating items from Plan?
Mike Moore: Addressed question regarding who was noticed. Had to piece information
together — mailing list has gone through revisions. Think we now have current list. Was not
aware of David Keller's memo until e -mail today. Was directed by council to reconvene
Citizens Committee to look at scope of work; review with Citizen and Planning Commission and
SPARC. Got very few responses to first memo. May 15, 2001 meeting held here in Law
Library, 11 people attended. Information in Agenda Item IV — to focus on implementation;
flexibility in design guidelines; how buildings related to one another. Most of changes in June
19 memo are based on recommendations.
Commissioner Vieler: Asked for list of Citizens Advisory Committee to compare to his list.
Did committee receive my notes?
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Mike Moore: Yes.
Commissioner Vieler: Any points of contention from notes?
Mike Moore: Patricia Tuttle Brown — changes from Bike Committee and Mary Dooley.
Commissioner Vieler: Asked for this to be on tonight's agenda to clarify notes to use in
deliberation as you go forward.
Commissioner Vouri: Do you want draft to reflect what you are going over tonight?
Commissioner Vieler: Yes
Commissioner Vouri: Who should be making these changes to Draft Specific Plan — Planning
Commission or Citizens Advisory Committee?
Commissioner Broad: Are you saying draft plan should incorporate all these changes? What
would the reason be to hear them as opposed to accepting them and asking what is included in
making this happen?
Commissioner Vieler: There is a gap in knowledge — my concern is that things will fall through
the cracks.
Commissioner Broad: Asked John Fitzgerald, Citizens Committee, what process would be best
used.
John Fitzgerald: Want Committee to have the final product of the Citizens Advisory Committee.
Possibly Mr. Moore and Commissioner Vieler could get together.
Commissioner Vieler: September 1998 Draft and December 1999 Draft — only 1 of 3 items were
incorporated.
Commissioner Broad: Distribute the marked up draft to the Commissioners.
Commissioner Barrett: If we get a copy of something with all the changes — should go to
Citizens Committee, Council, and Planning staff also.
Commissioner Vieler: By reviewing notes, this will give Commissioners background,
knowledge and context you will need when reviewing on your own.
Commissioner Vouri: Appreciate Mr. Vieler's effort. Would like to see final draft made with
changes incorporated. Do we still have the draft in electronic form?
Mike Moore: Yes
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Commissioner Vouri: Memos from Bill Lee that are important. Can they be attachments to the
CPSP?
Mike Moore: Can include the memos. Confusion about 9/98 draft and 12/99 draft. Proceed
with Commissioner's Vieler's comments and other information collected — produce a draft for
review by Planning Commission, Citizen's Advisory Committee and City Council. That
document would be ready in September of this year.
Commissioner Vouri: Agree because it will save labor. Finance amendment. Memo from Vin
Smith — fairly broad directives which will require interpretation and labor.
Mike Moore: Will not attempt to reconstruct — once we produce a final draft there will be
opportunities for everyone to review the draft and make changes.
Commissioner Vouri: Regarding tonight — work better with a draft before me.
Commissioner Vieler: Put in context what has already happened to this point — wanted to
present tonight.
Mike Moore: Up to Commission — concern was to not have a variety of drafts out in the public
when we go forward.
Commissioner Vieler: Recommend that I sit down with Mike Moore and insert the information I
have into what Mr. Moore already has.
John Fitzgerald: Advisory Committee comments as of this date — was working from the 9/98
draft and only that draft.
Commissioner Vieler: I combined 9/98 draft and 12/99 draft. Would like a copy of the
combined drafts. If I could get the CD I can do this by August 15, 2001.
Commissioner Vouri: Propose to reestablish a baseline.
Mike Moore: August deadline is fine.
A motion was made by Commissioner Glass and seconded by Commissioner Barrett to
incorporate language from Wayne Vieler's transcript notes and Vin Smith's memo into 12/99
CPSP draft.
All in favor.
Commissioner Barrett: Yes
Commissioner Monteschio: Yes
Commissioner Glass: Yes
Commissioner Broad: Yes
Commissioner Vieler: Yes
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Commissioner Vouri: Yes
Commissioner O'Brien: Absent
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IV. Discussion and possible recommendation on the Draft Scope of Work for the
Completion of the Central Petaluma Specific Plan.
(Continued from April 24, 2001.)
Public hearing
Geoff Cartwright: Talking about interim ordinance to maintain integrity of Central Petaluma
Specific Plan. Suggested a purpose clause. Provided a proposed resolution from Rohnert Park —
went over that resolution and hoped it would be helpful.
Commissioner Vieler: Concerns about being forced to eliminate parking study. I assume it's
money and using students because it's cheaper.
Mike Moore: Did not look at other consultants.
Commissioner Vieler: Parking critical to specific plan. How do we accomplish if we wait until
October.
Mike Moore: Through the public process you can look at ratios and requirements for parking —
not required to have baseline information. More pressure to complete the plan without the
benefit of the parking study. Still an opportunity to deal with parking as it goes through public
process. Does commission want to delay process to wait for study.
Commissioner Vieler: Question re: David Keller's letter — Wagstaff may not be best consultant.
What is process? Why did City change consultants?
Mike Moore: Next step was implementation. Chose CSW Stuber- Stroeh, development
regulations — chose because they were available. Wagstaff did EIR for redevelopment area.
Commissioner Vieler: Need reassurance regarding the work of consulting firm — will they be
using visionary draft created using their skills in implementation sense of the word?
Mike Moore: Intent is not to reinvent the plan. If we stray from the vision in the new draft I
expect we will hear about it.
Commissioner Barrett: If Sonoma State students were able to do when they return to school,
how long would it take?
Mike Moore: Approximately 45 days.
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Commissioner Barrett: My recollection from City Council — want the whole job done (analysis
for whole specific plan). If process slips another month to have a parking study, recommend
that.
Commissioner Vouri: Did you transcribe what Citizen's Advisory Committee came up with?
Mike Moore: Yes, however, I put in a few words to make it flow.
Commissioner Vouri: Referring to June 19, 2001, revision 3 — like the direction. How do we
make sure to incorporate housing in the mixed -uses and not just commercial.
Mike Moore: If a two -story building, top story to be housing or multi - purpose commercial,
bottom retail, office and housing.
Commissioner Vouri: Mixed use doesn't have to be mixed use in each project, but within a
certain area. New design standards — like language and direction. Not sure it's an either or on
some items deleted. Don't we need some guidelines?
Mike Moore: By deleting some design standards, maintain flexibility around relationship
guidelines rather than strict design standards. Will play out through the drafts — committee
wanted as much flexibility as possible.
Commissioner Vouri: Support the design guideline standards. Would like to see a minimum
housing requirement under Planning Division responsibilities.
Commissioner Monteschio: Don't see anything about streets — do not want to see cul de sacs.
Mike Moore: Need to establish baseline and work off grid pattern. Easy to add a policy to
reinforce grid street pattern.
Commissioner Vieler: Looking on list — only 8 actual members. Three names I do not
recognize: Allen Tacie, Paul Marangella, Don Campo. Need a quorum of original citizen's
advisory committee. Am concerned because of the directions you are taking. Want to defend
integrity of original guidelines.
Mike Moore: Not suggesting we are moving away from anything in the plan. Council's
direction was to reconvene Committee — nothing regarding quorum. Make attempts to get group
together. Am not trying to negate what has been done thus far.
Commissioner Vieler: Argue with only 8 people moving forward with direction of specific plan.
Mike Moore: Not aware of legal requirements regarding quorum being met.
Commissioner Vouri: Thank the Citizen's Advisory Committee and Director Moore — scope of
work appears to be cutting edge. Housing included in Planning Dept.
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Commissioner Vieler: Chose a number of examples for design so people would have a visual
component. Looks like it's moving forward in an appropriate manner. Relationship of citizens'
advisory committee done in a legal manner. Request that parking study be done.
Mike Moore: Will do the study in September and will bring back.
Consensus that parking studies be incorporated in final draft.
Commissioner Vouri: Not prepared to decide that tonight.
Commissioner Monteschio: Would like to see parking study first.
Commissioner Glass: Would like to see parking. This has never seemed complete. Want to see
all laid out in one neat package.
Commissioner Vieler: If ready in every aspect but parking, would like to see it move forward.
Commissioner Vieler: Grateful for experience.
V. Discussion and possible action regarding future agenda items.
(Continued from May 15, 2001.)
This item was not discussed.
VI. Discussion and possible action relating to potential revisions and /or modifications to
the Zoning Ordinance and the General Plan.
(Continued from April 24, 2001.)
This item was not discussed.
VII. ONGOING COMMISSION /STAFF DISCUSSION.
This item was not discussed.
VIII. LIAISON REPORTS:
• City Council: None
• SPARC : None
• Petaluma Bicycle Advisory Committee: None
• Tree Advisory Committee: None
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