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February 12, 2007
Vol. 42, Page 267
a City of Petaluma, California
MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL/
185$ PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
City Council/PCDC Minutes
Monday, February 12, 2007
Special Meeting
FEBRUARY 12, 2007
EVENING SESSION
CALL TO ORDER - EVENING SESSION - 6:00 P.M.
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Present: Barrett, Freitas, Rabbitt and Mayor Torliatt
Absent: Harris, O'Brien, Vice Mayor Nau
B. Pledge of Allegiance
C. Moment of Silence
PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
COUNCIL COMMENT
CITY MANAGER COMMENT
None.
AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS (Changes to current agenda only).
None.
1. PUBLIC HEARING
A. Public Hearing and Discussion of Draft General Plan 2025 and Draft
Environmental Impact Report - Land Use & Topics. (Tuft) - Continued from
February 5, 2007 meeting.
Mayor Torliatt
Pamela Tuft, Director of General Plan Administration
8C Lands of Robin, 1436 Western Avenue, APN 019-090-056
Mayor Torliatt
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Director Tuft
Council Member Rabbitt
Mayor Torliatt
Council Member Rabbitt
Director Tuft
Public Comment on 8C
John Saemann, resident on Sonoma Mountain Road, wants to keep a rural
feeling in that part of town and would like it to be "very low density." A
"rural" designation is regarded negatively by prospective owners. If parcel
was ever annexed to City, "very low density" would be good designation.
Dee Joseph, Petaluma, would like parcel to remain "rural residential" -
does not want more cars and congestion. Ground water is a real issue
and problems have increased since West Haven subdivision was begun.
Mindy Toth, Petaluma, has been involved in keeping land use designation
"rural residential." One of the concerns is water, and to keep the feel of
feathering to the outer borders of the City.
Edward Giordano, Petaluma, said development must be limited in this
area for hydrological reasons, not to mention esthetic. He added that
there are ground water issues already.
Dennis Jones, Petaluma, has lived in area over 40 years and has watched
surface water increase with development. He thinks a very thorough study
needs to be done before any more development is allowed.
Julie Marth, Petaluma, said the water issue has been a big issue for her,
since the Victoria and West Haven subdivisions were built, she has had
increasing flooding from the culvert in front of her house. She also believes
the "feathering principle" is not being considered strongly enough.
Kathleen "Katie" O'Connor, Petaluma, Paula Lane Action Network, in
support of neighbors in the area, regarding a "so called letter of support"
from Realtor Chelly, presented to the Planning Commission, which she
says was signed by many people who did not live in the area and would
not be affected by the change in density.
Patrick Schafer, Petaluma, Paula Lane Action Network, made comments
about the geographic relationship of the Western Avenue property to
their neighborhood on Paula Lane. They support "rural residential" on this
property.
Susan Kirks, Petaluma, Paula Lane Action Network, in support of neighbors
on Western Avenue. She spoke about density, noting what actually
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surrounds this area, including Petaluma Jr. High School, various residential
areas, and agricultural areas.
Diane Reilly Torres, Petaluma, pointed out that tonight's agenda referred
to "discussion" and the meeting should not include any "straw votes."
Mayor Torliatt
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
Council Member Rabbift
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
Council Member Barrett
Council Member Rabbift
Council Member Freitas
13A Lands of Livina Word Evanaelical Lutheran Church, 901 Eiv Boulevard
South, APN 017-060-020
Director Tuft
Council Member Rabbift
Director Tuft
Council Member Rabbitt
Mayor Torliatt
Director Tuft
Public Comment on 13A
Jeanine VanEften, Petaluma, Village East Neighborhood Alliance, spoke
regarding the existing water system in the area. They have had repeated
problems with water pipes bursting in the street because they were
originally the end of the line for the water system, and each time a
development has been added above them, their pipes blow. She said this
has happened 14 times.
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Glen Illian, Petaluma, Village East Neighborhood Alliance, has met with
the Living Word Church and supports the church going to "low density"
with the City recommendation that the strip of land directly behind the
houses, between the creek and the houses on Village East should be
designated "open space." He is happy to hear that Aurora Park would be
extended over to creek. He thinks the land north of creek should be
designated for expansion of the park.
Barbara Creamer, Petaluma, Village East Neighborhood Alliance, was told
by the Pastor Smith at the Living Word Lutheran Church that the
church had received an anonymous letter in the mail, and she thought it
was unfortunate that whoever wrote the letter did so in a moment of
anger, because it was not helpful or productive toward coming to a
satisfactory conclusion. She wanted to emphasize that the letter does not
reflect the views of their neighborhood group.
Mayor Torliatt
Ms. Creamer continued that the Village East Neighborhood Alliance
submitted a petition to the City in support of changing the designation of
the land from the edge of Arroyo Park to the creek from "school use" to
"park" and would like the City to designate the land from the creek to the
fence line of the existing town homes for "park" use as well, rather than for
"medium density" as is currently proposed.
Catherine Staller, Petaluma, in support of what the church proposes. She is
opposed to the space behind the seven homes becoming any part of a
trail because of the access to the creek. The City should consider fencing
that area off because of the potential of someone falling in the creek. She
said that the homeowners were told that the land behind the church to
the park would become park land, unless a church was built there.
Council Member Freitas
City Manager Bierman
Council Member Rabbitt
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
Council Member Rabbitt
8A Lands of Davidon (Scott Ranch) APN 019-120-041
Director Tuft
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Council Member Freitas
Director Tuft
Council Member Freitas
Public Comment on 8A
Jeff Thayer, Vice President, Davidon Homes, Walnut Creek, requested that
Council support the Planning Commission recommendations.
Greg Colvin, Petaluma, Petalumans for Responsible Planning, suggested
the park acreage be increased from 3 to at least 6; the park be labeled
"active" rather than "passive"; and the site be moved from the
"Neighborhood" list to the "Community" list.
David Glass, Petaluma, said when the Victoria subdivision was approved it
came with the agreement that in the corridor from 'D' Street to Western
there should be no more than 100 additional houses. He called it
"disingenuous" to come back later and want "high density." He
said Victoria has had three major, expensive hillside slides. This property is
also susceptible to landslides. He feels the City should not take risks with
slides, and that this would not be "smart growth."
Chey Moore, Petaluma, Petalumans for Responsible Planning, spoke
regarding a footnote to be included in General Plan saying that the
amount of parkland may increase. They are not happy with that 3 -acre
designation, and hope that footnote will leave the door open.
Sherri Fabre Marcia, Petaluma, spoke in support of adding an "active
park" to this area.
John Mills, Petaluma, representing Sonoma County Parks and Recreation
Commission, said the County allows bathrooms, etc., even in passive
parks.
Pam Granger, Petaluma, said that Petaluma needs a "definitive hillside
ordinance. "
Council Member Rabbitt
Mayor Torliatt
7B Lands of Voaensen, 1755 Petaluma Boulevard North
Director Tuft
Public Comment on 7B
Nancy Arata, Petaluma, would like to see that property be single-family
homes to conform with development by Cobblestone Homes, wants to
see it remain low density
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Victor Pizarro, Petaluma, resident of this area for three weeks, said that if
the property behind his house were developed, those houses would look
down right into his backyard. The idea of "medium density" scares him.
Bryant Moynihan, Petaluma, Nexus Realty Group, Inc., representing the
Vogensens, would like to be treated consistently with the neighboring
properties.
Randy Raabe, Petaluma, retired land surveyor, has lived in the area 29
years, and said he understands progress and growth and is not opposed
to a well-planned project. He sees no reason for special interest groups to
be able to come in and change the plan simply for their own gain. He
believes the neighborhood needs Council to protect their best interests.
He commended Cobblestone for meeting with the neighbors and
changing their proposed development to meet the desires of the
neighbors. He would like to see a development of single-family homes on
large lots.
Ione Vogensen, Petaluma, said she is widowed, and would like to move to
Arizona to be near family. Thinks her realtor is a good person. She thought
"medium density" was a fair designation.
Council Member Freitas
Director Tuft
Council Member Freitas
Council Member Rabbitt
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
11A Lands of DSL APNs 007-380-005, 027
Director Tuft
Public Comment on 11 A
Janice Cader-Thompson, Petaluma, noted that this property is very close
to Petaluma Valley Hospital, and she would like to see this property remain
designated as "mixed use." She would like Council to work with the
Petaluma Health Care District and have a public meeting to discuss the
long-term health care needs of community. She also spoke
regarding water issues on property, and lack of funding for widening 101
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through Petaluma. She believes a designation of "Community
Commercial" would compound the problem.
1 A Copeland Street Extension to Petaluma Boulevard in vicinitv of Oak
Street, potential impact on APNs 006-163-040 & 006-163-041.
Director Tuft
Council Member Barrett
Director Tuft
Council Member Barrett
Director Tuft
Council Member Barrett
Public Comment on 1 A
Chris McCarthy, Petaluma, representing the Silva Trust, said he is in charge
of developing these properties. In the spirit of compromise, they are
asking City to transfer some density for the loss of the three roads running
through properties.
11 C Lands of Aanese, Hummel, and Benson, APNs 007-431-003, 007-431-
004, 007-432-003
Director Tuft
Public Comment on 11 C
Patricia Hummel, Petaluma, property owner, Lands of Hummel, in support
of the original designation of "Business Park." The Hummels have owned
the property since the mid -1970's and have already made substantial
investments in hydrology and geology studies. She told Council that if they
were approving a plan for the City for the next 25 years, they should think
about how to use zoning to accomplish what will be needed for people
who are going to be here in 20 years.
Mayor Torliatt
Ms. Hummel
Mayor Torliatt
Ms. Hummel
Mayor Torliatt
Bryant Moynihan, Nexus Realty Group, working with Lucy Webb, in support
of the Hummels, said Council was here to talk about land use designation,
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not flooding, and said he believes that "Business Park" is the appropriate
designation for this land.
Geoff Cartwright, Petaluma, said, "Flood mitigation IS land use. This is the
area that we know, historically, floods on both sides of the freeway. It has
held water during winters continually." This property is the last of the
natural holding ponds that still exists. Council should not change the
designation on this property to allow another business park that will flood.
Council Member Barrett
Director Tuft
Council Member Barrett
Council Member Rabbitt
Director Tuft
General Public Comment on the General Plan
Geoff Cartwright, Petaluma, wrote a letter to General Plan Administration
about hydrology and bridges in Petaluma. He would like this to be
addressed in the hydrology portion of the EIR.
Walter Kieser, Economic and Planning Systems, Berkeley, told Council his
company prepared a market study in 2004 for property outside UGB on
Lakeville Highway. The study concluded that shortage of industrial
development sites throughout Sonoma County will mean that jobs won't
be able to locate here. He added the site is ideal from a variety of
perspectives, except it's outside the UGB.
Mayor Torliatt
Mr. Kieser
Mayor Torliatt
Council Member Barrett
Mayor Torliatt
8B Lands of Asbell, Irwin/ Nieubower, Mills, APNs 019-130-011, 041, 043,
046, and 047
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
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Public Comment on 8B
Steven LaFranchi, Steven J. LaFranchi and Associates, Petaluma, said that
the potential development mimics the rest of the neighborhood.
Council Member Barrett
Mr. LaFranchi
Council Member Barrett
Mr. LaFranchi
Council Member Barrett
Director Tuft
Council Member Barrett
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
Council Member Barrett
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt
Skip Sommer, Petaluma, clarified that there are approximately 3 acres in
the middle of this that are undeveloped, and proposal is a maximum of 8
homes with minimum of 7,500 square foot lots. At a Planning Commission
Meeting, someone suggested they were going to be in 32 homes, which is
not the case.
Harry Newbore, Petaluma, stated that Kelly Creek does not flow through
these properties.
Mayor Torliatt
Mr. Newbore
Mr. Sommer
Mayor Torliatt
Mr. Sommer
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10A Lands of Petaluma Preservation Group
Director Tuft
Mayor Torliatt announced that the Public Hearing was continued to the February
20, 2007 Special Council Meeting.
ADJOURN
The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
/S/
Pamela Torliatt, Mayor
ATTEST:
/S/
Claire Cooper, CMC, City Clerk