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City of Petaluma
Planning Commission Public Hearings
On the 1986 -200.5 Draft General Plan and EIR
MEETING SUMMARY
Meeting of August 19, 1986
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(NOT ±E: Meeting Summary pages and speakers are numbered, beginning with
page Fl. and speaker no. 1 of the August. 5 . summary and continuing
conse`cutiveiy from there. . Future summaries will pick -up trom where the
last page and speaker of the previous summary .left off.)
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Commission Members Present: Dan Libarle,, Michael Davis, Fred 'Parr, Patti
j Hilligoss, Ross Parkerson, Chairperson Nancy
' Read
Absent: Glenn Head
5tatt[Consultants- Present: Warren Salmons, Planning Director; Michael
Moore, Principal Planner; Nancy Alexander,
Knox and Associates (General Plan
Consultant)
The meeting was called to order at 7:06 p.m. Michael Moore reviewed the
material presented to the Planning Commission in its packet and additional
letters of comment on the General Plan received by the Planning Department
sincef;August 18. Mr. Moore then reminded the Commission . and the audience
that the Sonoma County Water Agency informational meeting on the proposed
flood 1;mitigation measures in the Petaluma area' would be at the Penngrove
Firehouse and not Liberty School as originall stated. The meeting date
and time August 28 at 7:30 p.m. -- remain unchanged.
Mr, i Salmons recommended that the Commission not hear any further
testimony on the proposed Denman Detention ,B'asin or the other flood
mitigation :measures shown on the ' map because of the lack of information
available to respond adequately to questions. He stated that the meeting of
August 28 should serve that purpose; and of course based on testimony
alreadv received, the Commission will have to make, a recommendation to the
City iCouncil on this issue, and then the Council will have their own
hearings before taking tinal action. Chairperson head then told the
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audience that the Commission would not hear any more testimony on the
Denman area. The, public hearing on the draft General
Plan and. EIR was
opened..
the Petaluma River whose owners are opposed to the:
Fran Bengtsson, Armand Stalter and 'Duane C1ift., all from the Denman area
asked the Commission to continue to -accept input- on
the proposed flood
mitigation. measures. Ms. Bengtsson submitted copies
of maps from the
Water, Agency study. Chairperson Read reiterated the
Commission's intent
to hear testimony on issues affecting properties within
the City limits and
left open the possibility to hear 'testimony from Denman area residents after
everyone else is heard.
49) Bob. Stimson
- submitted a map
showing the properties in the area
bounded by
"D''! Street, "'M cNear Hill., Petaluma. Boulevard
South. and
the Petaluma River whose owners are opposed to the:
Mixed Use
designation;
also submitted petition
signed by those owners;
reiterated
objections to
bike path along river
and suggested moving it
to McNear
Peninsula.
Response SEE' RESPONSE TO SPEAKER: NO. 5 (Meeting Summary of
August 5) for -rationale behind the City's designation of these
properties. It is also important 'to re- emphasize the Zon.g -term,
evolutionary nature of this proposal and that it wf6Z :offer la nd owners
in the area a broader ,range of development opportunities that could,
over time, make, their property more valuable. However., initial
opposition to this designation, as well as: the location of the bicycle
path, will be a factor in any discussion /decision by the Commission
and Council.
50) Andy Kvalheim - also spoke against the mixed use designation;
submitted letter into the record expressing his concerns about the
potential land use incompatibilities and the security problems with the
bike path.
Response SEE RESPONSE TO SPEAKER NO. 49.
'51) Harold Mahoney - spoke in support of the comments of Mr. Stimson
and Mr. Kvalheim. Also stated his opposition to Mixed Use proposed
for Petaluma. Boulevard North ,.here .he. also owns property.
Response SEE RESPONSE - TO SPEAKER NO. 49. The same rationale
applied to the designation along the. river. and Petaluma Boulevard
South applies here as well. and, perhaps, represents a* greater
potentiaZ for success because much of the area is already commercial
and the incompatibi7iiies suggested with industrial are not as, evident
in this area.
52) Henry Reynaud - - read. his letter, previously submitted. to the
Commission; requesting that, the lower portion of his property between
English -and liana Streets be given .the Urban Standard designation the
same as the surrounding . area and that the upper part remain
Suburban.,
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Response: The present designation is a carryover from the existing
Generca Plan which also shows this parcel as Suburban Low Residential
(bdulac). Topography is probably the single most important factor in
determining this designation'., and even though surrounding densities
may be higher, it may not be possible to accommodate anything higher
tYan two dwelling units per acre (the high end of the proposed
suburban designation) under present development standards for such
things as drainage and access.
53) van Logan - once again spoke against density ranges in the General
Plan; stated that other cities he had worked 'in - (Novato, Martinez) use
ranges and what ultimately happens is they settle on the middle of the
range as the maximum; requests that Petaluma set forth in the plan.
how it will set specific densities.
Response: As stated in response to Mr. Logan's first comments at the
meeting' of August 12 (Speaker 48, page 20,, Meeting Summary of
August 12), the: intent of the ranges is to provide flexibi7ity for the
Cz6 -in determining density and to better insure consistency between
zoning and the General Plan. Specific densities wi7l be set through
tli' zoning ordinance - will be revised following - adoption of the
GOneral Plan. However_,, Mr., Logan's concern: about the un certainty of
addressed; ranges needs to be add and staff-, in, preparing the material
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which the Commission can use in its deliberations. More specific policy
direction on this item* is certainly one of the alternatives the
Cbmmission should consider on this issue.
54) Barry Lawrence wanted to comment on the text of the plan
specifically expressed support for program calling for referrals of
project to the local resource 'conservation district 'for comments on
potential soil and/or water resource impacts- that Petaluma airport
currently had 127 aircraft locally based not 70 as stated in the plan;
was confused by where the "Hayfields" area is.
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Response: Comments noted; corrections and clarifications to the text
and map will be made following the hearings on the plan.
55) Chris Barauskas - read her letter into the record; portion. of the
property at the end of Graylawn near proposed Rainier overpass and
river should .be designated as park; no parkin the area 'will need one
jffi the higher density housing goes in.
- Respanse - Development is - now prohibited in the FZoodw area that
now covers a portion of the site suggested 'by Ms. Barauskas and.,
the� it would remain as open space. The City, in fact, has
P' blic access easements to a 'portion of the flood:way. Additional park
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ar e a may be needed to provide sufficient open space for people in high
density areas and to take advantage of natural features that now
exist: This will be one of the alternatives suggested to the
Commission' for its consideration.
56) Derek Simmons - objects to Public and Institutional designation on
t property at the northeast corner of Ellis and East Washington;
fo'U'nd no indication of money set aside for City to purchase the
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property;; commented that there was no. lack of public land in area and
that the proposed gateway site effectively removes the existing
Neighborhood Commercial designation from client's (Conrow) property.
Res onse: 'The. Community Character p sub - committee and, later the
Genera Plan Coordinating Committee su the concept .of ,gatew,ays
as one .means of enhancing the image of Petaluma as one enters the
City by way of its major thoroughfares. A gateway :as_ discussed by
the various committees could be either a formal stoppZng.� place where
people could become oriented to the city: and gather information on
where to go or what to. see,. or it could be an area featuring special
landscaping and signs marking the entry to the city. The city
recognizes that any Zand designated for a public -use, whether it be
for a gateway or a park, or whatever, would have to be purchased if
no other means of acquiring the property were - ,avaz7able.
Furthermore, the gateway concept :does, not necessarily involve
acquiring the 'land on- which it stands, but may be accomplished
through site development policies calZing for certain distinctive
development standards as a condition of approval of a ,project on the
site.. One alternative the Commission will have to consider is to
remove; the Public, and Institutional designation on the site and restore
a commercial designation, but Zeave the gateway ,location to be worked
into the future development of the property. Other alternatives that
w7= also be presented to the Commission include.. (f) a site . specific
designation on public 'property (across from the proposed site)';
(2) no gateway; (3) gateway policies only in text of ' the plan;
(4) leave designation as is but clarify definition and intent of City.
57) Bill Conrow - reiterated objections to the Public and :Institutional
designation on his property at Ellis and East Washington.
Response SEE RESPONSE TO SPEAKER NO,. 56,
58) Robert Conrow. - also objected to the Public and Institutional
designation on the property at Ellis and East Washington.
Response SEE RESPONSE TO SPEAKER NO. 56.
59) Kate Bolton - supported the comments of Chris Barauskas. for a park
near the river in the vicinity of Oak Creek Apartments; need open
space 'in the city`; it becomes more valuable as development continues
and, open areas fill up; supports street tree programs in the plan. .
Response SEE RESPONSE TO SPEAKER' NO. 55. The draft General
Plan recognizes - the importance of urban open space as well as the
open lands around the City. One focus of the plan is the proposal to
create a system of open space that wia allow people to travel through
open space areas in and around the City to get from place to place.
The' Urban Separator, the Petaluma River, the major creeks are all to
be part of the system.
6U). Gary Filippini
- responded to the
response in the meeting
summary
of August 5
(Speaker No. L, page
L); had the GPCC seen
the park
designation at
the west end of Casa
Grande High School as
shown on
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the existing General Plan - map; restated his desire to have his mother's
property remain at 7 du/ac,. as designated on the existing General Plan
map.
Res onse: The General Plan :Coordinating Committee (GPCC) did know
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that the existing General Plan map showed a neighborhood park
adjacent to Casa Grande, High School. In developing the proposed
Ge'reraY, Plan map, however., staff and consultants recommended to the
GPCC that the property to the north of the high school be shown as a
Community Park because of the City's interest in working out a joint
us'e agreement to develop athletic fields. The Community Park (which
serves a different function than a neighborhood park) replaced the
neighborhood park on that site. The GPCC recommended a
neighborhood park on the Fi ippini property, although the two decisions
were separate and not an eitherlor situation. As to the density
question, the Commission will consider Mr. Filzppini!s request as one of
th6 alternatives presented for the property as part of its deliberation
process.
61) Aia�n Dunham read letter for the record asking that a greater
portion of the property at the north corner of Petaluma Boulevard
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South and IIK: Street be designated Mixed, Use.
Response: The Mixed Use designation coincides with the Service
Commercial land use now on the property. To move the demarcation
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Zin,.e between the Mixed. Use and the residential Urban Standard
d' e's ig nation will require looking at the surrounding land
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ubes--particularZy nearby residentiaZ--to see what impacts such a move
might have.
62) B.arry - Lawrence - owns six .acre property bounded by Old Redwood
Highway, Goodwin Avenue and Denman Road; winery located there plus
historic house that could be a bed and breakfast inn; presently
oiftside the Penngrove Specific Plan, Penngrove Sewer District and the
City's Urban Limit Line; wants to develop as a tourist spot but also
maintain agricultural uses on the site (grapes); wants to. be within
Urban Limit Lind to eventually get City service.
ffes 0 e. The location of the Urban Limit Line, particularly on the
East �Ze of Petaluma, was an issue of considerable discussion.
Ev entually the boundary was adjusted s2ightly to take in areas which
had been set aside as Urban Reserve in the 2978 Environmental Design
P&zn (EPP) and to recognize the relocation of the airport. Based on
this plus the County's desire to maintain a separator between Petaluma
a Penn,grove., staff is, not. likely to recommend that the Commission
a u st. the line , to, take in other property. Furthermore, if the
Commissio considered taking in the property in question, it would
also have to consider taking the properties on the. south side of Old
Redwood Highway up to Ely Road to maintain consistency in its
ac tions.
63) Bill Vartnon - owns property in county on Petaluma Boulevard
South; County designation is commercial, City shows as residential;
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wants to sell the property_ but doesn't know what to tell the
prospective buyer.
Response: Until the property comes into the City through annexation,
the Count ,y land use designation and zoning apply. Since the City
does not aggressively annex surrounding Zan,ds.; but rather waits for
the proper owners to petition for annexation, it may be quite
sometime before the .property might become part of the City. State law
permits a city to place ;land use designations on properties outside its
Zimits if, over time, it is likely that those properties will become part
,of the city'. T,he residential designation- was placed on the property
and others , the vicinity to prevent the continuation of strip
commercial long Petaluma Boulevard South..
64) Elmer ,Scott - requested that his property in the vicinity of Corona
.Road (north s ide) and the NWPRR tracks (,east side) be included
within the Urban Limit Line and the Corona /Ely Specific Plan area.
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Response Mr. Scott's property along with others along the north side
of Corona Road had originally been proposed as part of the Specific
Plan area. However, 'the outcry of nearby residents of Penngrove,
Corona Road and Ely Road against tthe City crossing Corona Road
caused a :realignm.ent of the boundary to stay to the south side.
Corona Road and the railroad' do provide logical boundaries on .which
to base the Urban. Limit Line .and- specific plan boundaries.. Perhaps
the proposed expanded boundaries represent the next 1.6'g1 al step in
urban growth which might be considered in future updates of the
General Plan.
65) Harold Mahoney - requested that his property at the southwest
I orner of Bodega Avenue and Cleveland Lane be changed from Rural
Residential to Thoroughfare Commercial.
R:es.ponse A change: to Thoroughfqre Commercial would be consistent
uiith the, County's designation in the West Petaluma Specific Plan of
Commercial and County zoning of C -3, General Commercial.
66) Rick Long - owns property in "hayfields" area; what is" potential for
annexation; how did it come to be Special Industrial.
Response . T he potential for . -annexation of this area is very good
although .the timing is unkno,w.n. The.. "hayftelds" were an area much .
discussed during the sub- committee phase of general. plan update
because of their unique location between the river- and freeway. Some
felt this area should remain :open and unde.veZoped to prevent the
'Wicon Valley" appearance of continuous industrial buildings lining the
freeway. Others saw this as ;potentiaZty valuable industriaZ once
problems of flooding and access are solved. Special ,industrial is a
compromise of sorts that will permit industrial development, but of a
scale and sensitivity that wilZ stall preserve the natural attributes of
the area and avoid the congested, chockabZock appearance that many
were concerned about.
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67`) Ral h Pelton, just completed a parcel ma for his ro ert off of
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"I + " Street; in the County but City has reviewed the map and he had
never heard about the Urban Separator before; concerned the
separator will prevent him from building his house on the site he has
chosen.
Response PZanning Director Warren. Salmons offered Mr. Pelton the
opportunity to meet with him and review the information and
correspondence that has been generated over the past year between
the City, the County and Mr. PeZton's representat iv-es regarding his
parcel map in the hope that it would resolve some of his concerns.
68) Nita Miller - requested that the Urban 'Separator designation now on
her ±90 acre property at the northeast corner of Casa Grande and Ely
Boulevard be placed along the 'rear of the property and the
Agricultural designation (that portion of the property east of the
Urban Limit Line) be removed.
Response That 'portion, of M's. MVZer's property now designated Urban
Separator and' AgricuZtural on the -proposed General Plan Land Use Map
zsj ,,entirely within the Inner Approach Zone of the Petaluma Municipal
Airport. Any - type of land use that would introduce people or
buzddings . into this area is severeLy Zim ted because of the need to
protect people and property from incoming or outgoing aircraft. Even
ifi the Commission and Gounca approved shifting the Urban Limit Line
and Urban Separator across -the back of the property, the Zand use in
the intervening area would not permit any more intensive use of the
Za.nd because of the regulations governing approach zones as set forth
by the County's Airport Land Use Commission (whose responsibility it
is; to regulate Zand uses in and around airports) . According to
Airport Land' Use Commission Safety Compatibility Criteria - -also
adopted by the City as part of its airport *land use poZicy- -inner
approach land uses that are conditionally acceptable include: (a)
residenttat at Z dwelling unit /3 acres.- (b) other uses in structures
with occupancy of no greater that 25 persons /acre at any one time;
a' d maximum structural coverage of 25 %; and (c) other uses not in
structures with occupancy of '50 'persons/acre, at any one time.
Additional. conditions would depend on the nature of the proposed land
use.
Followig a short break, the' Commission began a discussion of the Denman
Detention Basin and related flood matters. Commissioner Davis stated that
he felt -all the flood mitigation proposals should be removed from the map;
and that the Zone 2'A Advisory Board, of which Commissioner Hilligoss was
a member, should consider holding one or -more informational meetings, with
Water I Agency representation, to gather more input on the various
proposals. Commissioner Parkerson responded that there is a need to
evaluate how the detention basin would affect flood mitigation through the
General' process, and that the Commission shouldn't be so hasty to
remove > the measures from the map without further examination. Warren
Salmons agreed that the plan must address flood mitigation; however, it can
be done through policy (0.g. adopting the Water Agency Study, with . all of
the various alternatives, by reference) Whether or not any of the
measures are on the map does not preclude further study; the map can be
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changed at a later date ; more ,information is available; to remove them
does not Prevent them rom happening. Uommissioner Hill'igoss stated that
either alt mayor alternatives be shown (the three already shown,, plus the
three reach ro ects), or t orie should be shown. . Commissioner i,ibarle
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expressed his concern at the lack'. of information and the inability to provide
satisfactory Tanswers in response to public questions. it was his opinion
that. the measures !shown, on the General clan Land Use Map be removed
until more information is forthcoming. Commissioner Warr .asxed that the
Commission put off any . decision on whether or not to :remove the flood
mitigation measures until, ,after the water Agency informational meeting on
August. 18. The Commission then agreed to here from people in the llenman
area for the remainder of the meeting time.
o9) xebecca Martin asked that the Commission. read the Master
lirainage Study and become beater informed about the issues; read a
letter from the Uorps of Engineers regarding the reconnaisance study
for the Vayran Reach project.
.mesponse , As already mentioned �in the Meeting. Summary Addendum. to
the Meeting .Summary of August 5 Ute "m G,, page 13), the Corps of
Engineers' Pa"yran Reach project is not. the same _as the Water. Agency's
proposal of -the same name:. The Corps' project is of smaUer. scale and
a lesser level of flood protection.
'10), Armand Stalter - asked several questions about the Willow Brook
Diversion regarding dimensions and impacts on leach fields and
orchards.
Response Information . on the dimensions of the Diversion channel may
be: available at the Water A',ge.ncy informational meeting on, August 28.
Other impacts are unknown at "this point and'. would have to : be studied
and "resolved before any construction could occur.
7.1) Manual. Azevedo - why is building allowed in the Industrial "Avenue
area in the floodplain.; stated opposition to. Denman Detention Basin.
Response Petaluma,. allows ;b.ui7ding in the floodplain u -nder specific
conditions that protect against, the 100 -year flood.
72.) Antoinette Brooks - referred to Goals, Objectives, Policies and
Programs in plan. regarding the .Petaluma Planning Referral Area (of
which the Denman area is a part`) and the need . to protect resources
and wa 'also commented on flood. ,mitigation policies that . put
the problem on residents 'in Denman area.; City should put ,other
measures in the text and on the map.
Response It is the intent of the City to protect and preserve
resources in the Petaluma Planning Referral Area as stated in the
plan; and in keeping with that, it not the intent of the. City to
solve the problems of flooding in, the City by flooding the Denman
Area. As stated many times at the meetings and' in the Meeting
Summaries, there is extensive additional study that must be done
before any decision on what measures to implement can be made.
Furthermore, it would seem, based on the earlier discussion by the
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C!ommission, that all alternatives will somehow be included in' the plan
either on the map or in the text.
This portion of the hearing was closed at 1000 p.m. to be continued on
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Wednesday, August 20 at 7:00 p,m.
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