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PETALUMA PLANNING C011MISSION NOVEMBER 7,• 1979'
REGULAR.ME' T:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS;,.'CITY HALL PETALUMA, CA
The - Blann'ng Commission encourages - applicants -or t•le r- representative to be
available at the,;meetings;`to answer..questions.,.so that.no. agenda items need
be- d&ferred to a later date. due... to - a..lack - .pertinent information,..
PLEDGE, ALLEGIANCE-'TO THE, FLAG
ROLL CALL::, . Comm. _ Battaglia Head .._..... Lavin ; Popp
). Shearer Tencer Waite
STAFF: Gregory. Fre tas •Comniiin , ty.Development. & Planning Director
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES::: Minutes of October 16-, 1979
DIRECTOR S'
' � REPORT.:
dl KISSIQNERS' REPORTS :
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CHURCH EXPANSION- CHURCH OF Pubiic..Hear: ng..'to.. cons de "r a Use. Permit
JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY. app`lication,: of..d- chu`r-ch.. expansion for the
SAINTS 745 'N'. WEBSTER ST:. / Church. of -Jesus_ Christ of."iLatter 'Day Saints
USE PERM•IT�REQUEST: located .._at. 7:45 N.. - 'Webster Street,.
ENVIRONMENTAL 'IMPACT :REPORTS:. - Public Hearing__ to ... consider. ,..the....adequacy : of the
PETALUMA _P,ORT.ION • , .EASTERN Final .._ Envir .onmental- Impact_.,,Repor.t and Environ-
MARIN. -SOUTHERN .,SONOMA mental-.1 mpact Statement:._on- the;'Pet_aluma portion
WAST'EWATER„.MANAGEMENT PLAN_ of':the Eastern Marie- Southern_ Sonoma Wastewater
Management Plan
PLANNING MATTERS_. Review, of Approved Residential Developments
and Pro_posed,`Resdential Developments
ANNUAL PLANNING Selection 'of Place and Date. .of Annual Planning
COMMISSION';DINNER: Commission Dinner
NOT OFF.ICiAL-UNTIL APPROVED BY
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UMA PLANNING, CQMMhSSION NOVEMBER, 1979
AR MEETING 7: 30 ' 'P . M`.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS,, CITY.HALt PETALUMA ;- .CAtIFORNIA
NT:- . Head, Shearer, Tencer,;_Waite
T: 'Gomm. Battaglia`; Lavin, Popp
Gr.egory.Freitas Community Development & Planning Director
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:. Minutes -of ° October' 16, - 1979 were approved
as. corrected,. Page15, Mecham Hill Community
Separator /Denman Flat Area., add; Motion introduced by Comm. Popp; seconded
by, Comm. Battagaia. AYES: 5 NOES.: WAITE ABSENT: HEAD
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CORRESPONDENCE: None
DIRECTOR'S REPORT- ' The Planning : Directo.r summarized the Areas of
pproved or Preliminary Residential Develop-
ment's Report for the City,), dated October, 1979.
PUBL -IC HEARINGS
CHURCH EXPANSION, - 7:45• N, WEBSTER! STREET,'- "USE' PERMIT' ; REQUEST
Item 1.285 approving a Use Permit'application.of the of Jesus Christ
of LIatt,er Day Saints' ,for as church expansion located at _745 N: Webster Street,
based on the. following Use d'ermit findings and corid "itions re'dom-mendedrr by
by staff. Motion introduced by . Commi. .Head;i' seconded.` by- - Comm, 'Shearer to
approve the Use Permit. 'The Public Hearing was. opened and closed.,
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AYES:" 4 ABSENT BATTAGLIA /LAVIN /POPP
Findings
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The ,estab ishm_'ent ,, maintenance or operation of the., use or building
applied for will riot under the circumstances the particular,c,ase
b`e detrimental to the health;; safety, peace,'mor.als, comfort and /or
general I welfare of persons res_iding,or working i_a the neighborhood
of such proposed use; and/or or nj "urous to property or
I. improvements in, the ;neighborhood -and /or. ;to 'the general. -welfare of the'
i City.
2. The. us .doe8 0_Qnf oMr to. tt'ie :r���tt�:�re t►�'i� -:s and. . nLeAt .of. Zoning-_nrd nance
No 1072.N.C,S.,, tHe.Petaluma• General Plan, and the .Environmental
i'`Des. - Plan and such'u'se will not cgnstitute -a nuisance..
i : Conditions -
1. ! This Use Permit, shal3 expire ,ifs not;: within , one. (1)` year from date
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r !. of Commission approval without further notification.
2: . ; � • 'Ttie ,a;pplcant shall ,receive. City Ar'chit'ec,tural- and Site Design approval
of the proposal prior to the issuance of a building permit,
PETALUMA PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER '7', - °1979
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PUBLIC HEARINGS- CONT'D
PETALUMA,PORTION EASTERN.- MARIN- SOUTHERN`SONOMA WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN .
' ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT; REPORT: /ENVIRONMENTAL`IMPACT STATEMENT
Item 11,341- Recommending the City dounci'l . certify the adequacy 'of. the
Final Env gpmemtal Imp'act;Repora and.Saatement, dated June 1979, of
the Eastern Marin South'e'rn`Sonoma Wastewater Management Plan::'' Motion'
introduced by Comm. Head',; seconded by .Comm,. Shearer to .recommend the City
Council cer the adequacy, of'.the Final Environmental Impact Report and'
Statement, with the recommendation that responses to the 'foh?owing comments
be presented; and, 1 information from the S•ilacc - Study be '
' provided., The Public Hearing was .opened and c10 - d
AYES;: 3 NOES.: WAITE ABSENT: BATTAGLIA /LAVIN /POPP
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I, 26 (C) - Request E..I.R., discussion only for' P'etauma. E.L.R':' done on
Pet -aluma project is - grossly in'ad'equate. ,
285(C)' - C'itizens participa`t. on in the whole E..I °R., process was 'next to
nothing.
287'('C) 'Cardoia''famil:y was - on:,the list: of members of- the Ci'tizeri "s Input~
Committee-- but n 0 ndtice' - of a''m n'g was 'tecelved. o.ff,iciall
nor were the residents on Lakeville .dire'ctly involved in the
affected areas .direct }'notified.. • .
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3 J2 (C) - Market 'for local' crops The f'easibil'ity , and growing' season
`345
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have.nbt,,.been adequately an"swered;: No_in`dicat on• in E:I:R. of-
the effect ,on local ha y growers::
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351(C) - support for coricept of reclamat ion' review wh 1's` support ,
364
coming
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from ~or• is there any oPposi ion? No data to substantiate
public support for ths_conce
3$2 °(C) - Cost effectiveness = - 'Alternatives `cannot' compared unless there
3.95 is a breakdown of some.costs No detail analysis of operation
and maintenance.
416 (C) Marsh Treatment (Page 7
g ) - Marsh treatment was he studied as
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an alt`erdative for Petaluma. ]ould dike to have itt; "`s;tudied and
. compared as 'the.re ma r-be .a cost ef�fe,
y ctive way" of'dsposing the
waste.,
43'6 (C) - `S;t,udy: of existing 'plant- Zt. I R. • does. not, inc'lud'e the' plant
445,(C) - E ;R.. contradictory . - '`concernin'g .l`a'nd classification and
irrigable ,land.
450(0) - Project,`not in'•cont'e 't `wit -h .tile County General. Plan.
459(0) - Reached the E L.,R.., roces's on the
P project, without - knowing - if
4$0 anyone ls'_availdhle to,use the dater;. Determine,•af there'
interest in a mapped out 'designat,ed area 'to use the waste water:
483(c) - - Health • haiara`-has riot been '.'addres's ed-. "
(C) - Rita Card'oza - f
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Pt TALUMA PLANNINGz COMMISSI ON
MINUTES; NUVEMBER, 7
Tape,
- 1490 (C) Securing, Agricultural "tafid- for' t
- WAqoawa'tet Irrigd,tion._.:One procedure
SQ31 ne c _ry was cbhtem inat:(`6h of land. 'fbr the purpose of agr�icultutal
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ion.., ' w ith -9,0& And goes to ac�-e& in
Irrigat It starts ,
- this is a dV r
L I akevil , le; are .-w the
n' a.., e qe mp,ift t
51 ( CI) No p roh ib it s
statemen, ' t ..to_.,monitof the [ghat [ghat
soil .degrad ;and what. guarantee is th6rd? No mitigatin
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fact6r for soil degradation.,
550(0) -The E.I.R. 'has not respond'ed-to the _comments made: in the original
.5 61 he " ar'ing�s.- it, is inaccurate,, :vague .,and ., Re neral.
574(0) Specifics are not done in''E'. effectiveness, market,
and securing of, land... _These ,items 'have-to b6 sp.eqif ically
brought out..
11. 2 60-(J), Climat`6' -. Re'po rt :jindlc'ates the" Petaluma- climate is sufficient
fore crops butother more profitable s Ch II , in_
Page 3 central valley ma not be grown, in -S,onoma County due to la ck
of sufficient heat.. 1. d of monitoring degr . e& sh uId b e
�7 T(J) Degree Days - start ' and '' eh 0
indicated. I When do . deg , i ;! e( , a da ys start and f inish?
288(J) Weaihek Record - Questioned where w6atherlyas taken Lakeville is
located six to seven miles
t'diii Potalum,,.i And h4 '�dif- erent weather.
300 Reports stated there are 20 dairies wit hin, 10 miles -(road 'miles:;?)
And 5,,000 Cows.- There are now two dairies within the 10' m i l es . that
do *not want to us'b'"it.-
Ch 4 311(j) Econdmi' Effect, Talk new jobs can't find people to
Page 3 do the work iight'now.
317(j) 'Corn crop -- Questioned how the $,1*00. and
designate with accuracy.of.,figures.
Ch. 4 322(J) Soils Impacts The..c of, -,'the s-gila'. in•:',the: Petaluma area for
Page 5- sustaining irrigated,-agricultute isF.margin at.>best. What can be
done with marginal soil?
'Ch 4 3 26(J) Open..Spade, - ben -You can, at green
Page 5 c I rops in the dry summer time with. brown,_pas;tUr'es.qnd hills all
'around. this will attract p 0 . I e. which. will also attract, trespassers
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3360 Has 'the - salt content- . in_. the. P6t 4"eeh resolved?
517°(H) , - Does not assess the :marsh system'. Sy'no I t, 9
goin' into the marsh system
wittwut an in7,psti could be, violation o.f'the Environmental
gat ion
Protection- Agency gLridelines,.,
522(H) No milking ,dairy animals.,cari,tie g-r-"d on these irrigated lands.
A Did'fipt invgstijzate. ;two, insiancesi.in Sonoma County where dairy
animals have died as, -a result .:,6f, eat. q9, cr opq f rom these irrigated
lands!.
(J) iC,r-a.i 9 Jacobson
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(H)• zliavid"Hillerfdahl.
PETALUMA PLANNING'COMMISSioN NOVEMBER 7:, 1979'
- MINUTES .
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Soil Des.lgnatipp (Page IU =12) shows . salt 'accumulat- on is attr.' but-
able to the application. of Heavy "xains would decrease
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the effect-s �of 'sali ;Add'e_d>, Lo, 'the soil, 'but, tli'e report fails to
consider the ser "ious dry' =years. '
600;(140) -.,
Compatability .of soils- structpr•e and • 6or -ls • drainage not shown.
615(HO)-
E I- R. should- cover the condition' of the''soil' ,to ,40 years of
wastewater irrigation:
I.II 30(CR) -
E I'.R: lacks adequate informaton on. crops and livestock, that pan
be: raised to make.a'profit,, Information should be obtained.from
farmers, actually i'n: the; business locally. ;
56(CR)'_=
Sheep, develop blue, t6ngd - Aisease. The''e.. are i-7 different types
of blue tongue for which there is vaccines for" four. This.d'isease
is carried, by, gnats a i
nd wth' more irrri anon there, would be
.more gnats. :•
80(CA)=
'The •Petal'uma Area. Farm Bureau °. Center has''gone on record as being
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opposed to taking agricultural Sand "for',-the "dy spos A 'of wastewater,
How can there "be an. `E I,.R:. on e land, when it has not.,,,bee_n_ determined'
what .land, there ''Rl' i1 be an im "pact on?
J05(SA)
Consider the construction of marsh wastewater plan as, a soluti ®n,.
It would be a more finaricially ,attractive -and positive approach
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tg the problem'..,
110 (;SA)`
Oppose ther`wastewater paan that would irrigate f.eed`; crops; favors
;marshland.
125(SA)
Most of the land is hilly, there is no guarantee that: the water will
not t'o the bottom. What 'h`app'ens •t'o - `the well - water and, the
•.'wat:er..,table at the bottom. +of 'these:• h- il1_s'? ,'
135(SI)-
Dairy cows cannot, be grazed on, land 'that' has been, irrigated with
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was=t'ewate'r. ' If. •thet was' someway f:o irrigate: hills,. there is; bound
to 'be some run off, which.'would, contaminate the• `dams,rwhere the milk''
cows.' drink- out' of .r
l51(S:I) 7- °
Where would - the . energy' come .froin to -pump- this, water "r on: the" -9.00' to
19,00 acres,?
160 ('S I:)-
There 'is a feed; mill 'unde'r construction` at Ely. Road, The only
time. this feed mill will operate will be from 10 p - „m, ,to 6 a,.m;, ,
when -there is not the peak energy demand_. 'If °thi.s'.proj'•ect. is
approved, °would'` the =farmers have to- ,=irrigate from- 10 p.m. to
Clarify pumping water the marsh. lands to pr.otect crops If
U(Ms - CR)
this ground' is saturated' previous' `to heavy rains;; . there• will - be.
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floodin in 'Pena -luma, The soils. and levees cannot 'li'old that 'much
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moisture - . .Marsh' lands= are `like` a ' they saturate to a, point
and go no further. `
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--- oo"e (C' :° _ r'oi,, C�,sne (SE`:)' Sartori
(SI) - ,Don
'Sila.cci (Ms CR') = Mrs:-`Tom Crane
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PETA•LUMA
PLANNING CQMMISS'ION - NOVEMBER 7, 597,9.
MINUTES
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11I. '190.(B) -
This is our .land you are talking about and we would likes to be '
able 'to speak on . all :phases of� .,our Tand
20Q(B) -
..Silacci pilot project not.a part of the E:.I:R; and' should be
wAs to'have'been ma, 'Silacci was - irrigating.
included: 'A. ud d * he'
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Where are the studies?
270(8)-
•- Monitoring ,Program: - Nothing.said:about the :monitoring program
Ch 4 -Pg 21
being specific as to what Jis going to 4e done, how it sis going
to be done and_who; Will, pay for -. the .monitoring program?
310(8)-
Health Aspects, - What: is',t_he guarantee that. the people that have.to
us'e the water' will not `be affected. ?_
435(
Cows,Ido not dust. live on s lag'e no, matter how much silage. is
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raised, alfalfa.still_ has to be bought., Did not see where the
silage' market would come .from. � ;.
449( °MC)
'The March 29, 1979., .Press Democrat- `"states' - Silacci on Lakeville
Highway .after growing..sil_agp for three years has found it
economically unfeasible. _,The Petersbn. brothers of Rohnert Park
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have tried Jt for, three years and - found .it unfeasible and dis-
continued the usage. -
4 ° 70(C)-
Project Costs,"- Why when project costs °are, questioned are they
tabled. If project costs are suitable Tor an E,I ,R'.;:, then they
should be discussed.
554(0) :, =
Based on the ;consultants recommendation -and all other,facts, the
City Council would decide on a ;plan and the irrigation, project
selec'ted, individual land owners would then. be" contacted. That
is a backwards operations. It is not su "itab:le to select a plan
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or adopt an EA .'. R .and° 'then ,go back, and talk to the land owners'.
The 'land owners have not been spoken to regarding a.number of
these issues.
571(C)'!-
Before answering . .questions - firs, you need input, the people
involved - response to the concerns and they should be answered,,
which .,- .has not; 'been: done. We are: th`e people whose environment
will `most directly, be affected. on this, type of project : . • We have
never; been. contacted. How "can, someone assess the .impact when no
specif field work has 'heen done by going out to that area.
(B) V. Brazil
(.G) riarg, Gambonin (MC) - . ,Marvin Cardoza
(C) R. �.Cardoza
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PETALUMA PLANNING COMMISSION
NOVEMBER, 7,' 1979
EASTERN MARIN =SOUTHERN SONOMA WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN - E -I CONT'D
. ', , Speakers-:
Opposed
Rita C'ardoza, 5869 Lakevill'e
Craig Jacobson, 5070 Lakeville Highway,
David Hllendahl,, Fish' & G'ame Ad'vasory Board
rancher : .
Tom Crane,' 67:88',Lakeville Highway
- .5'972 Petaluma Hill- Rd, - resident
L. Campbell, 392 -Fallon •Road`
Mr. Sartori;. 59 Rocca - Drive
Pon,;Silacci,, 6235 Lakeville, Highway� ,
Mrs Tom. Crane , , 5;9..7.2 Petaluma : Hill Road
Vascoe Brazil, 45.51 Lakeville Highway
Margaret' Gambonini,. Lakeville Highway' .
Marvin Cardona,, 5869
Consultant's:
William 0.. Mad'daus,, Brown and Caldwell
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John Black.. &:Veatch (formerly with"
Trotter /'Y'oder Associates) _
Dick_Soennichsen., Black & Veatch (formerly
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(faith 'Trotter. /Yoder. '& - 'Associates)
0thers:
Lester Fe-ldman,, Regional Water : Qual i ty - Control,
Board
Staff:
Thomas .Hargis', City - Engineer
John ,Scharer, Asst. City'Manager
., PLANNING MATTE ,,:
ANNUAL ,PLANNING „:
It was the' consensus.that the Annual
COMM ISS,- IQN.DTNNER;,.
Planning Commiss "ion. would be
held on Friday; `November 30; or Saturday,
December 1, 1979.. The place to chosen
by the. 'Planning•D' rector
ADJOURNMENT
' . meeting, adjourned at 'l :u20 p.m:
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