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M IN U T E S
PETALUMA,4CITY.,PLANNING...COMMISSION
JANUARY 18, 1977
REGULAR MEETING .',..7:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL PHM BERS, CITY .HALL ._ ...,, PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA
PRESENT: f Comm. Harberso ..Po p p,,, Waters,: Wright
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ABSENT: Comm. Bond, Head, Horciza
STAFF: Ronald F. Hall, Planning Director
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APPRE)VAL MINUTES: None..
EAST WASHINGTON STREET- -The design and. location ,of,,the prQposed widening of East
VJIDENiNG/:F.A_U.
Oington.' 1
Wd S,treetyas,removedrom the agenda as no
PROJECT /N
request had .been- .received ,that .a, public hearing be held
DECLARATION CLEARANCE:..
_to discuss, the, ,prod ecti...
RICHARD, WILLIAMS: FOR
-Com Wtr.m.ye
m " . . . � a r e , od the . proposed, 5hopping Center to be
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THE MAHONEY CO., INC.
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located - at BaywoQd, - ,Driy�, : dnd. -Perry,.Lane be. removed f rom
E. EVALUATION/
.. the.. agend and re-f,chedu-led f or Februati 1, 1977, as
USE PERMIT U18-76/
the avpllcant needed- additional time to prepare a
SITE REVIEW:
traf f1c - study., -,-The motion_was ..seconded by Comm. Popp.
(Continued).
AYES 4 NOES ; ABSENT .3
S IGN. -ORDINANCE:
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M r Hall Hall .,stated.-the _Pmmissioln..was>to review the pro-
p.6sed ..Chamb!E�r of- :Commerce Sign, Ordinance f or recoimnen-
dation to the City Council. ,There would notbe any
offic-ial-action taken at this meeting, but a comparison
,.-wouid.be. made :between the existing: sign ordinance, the
C of,. Novato. Ordinance and-the ordinance proposed by
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the of!Commerce.. 'There were - f our major areas
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ytiere Chamber C ommerde from the exist-
ing n section, of the -Zoning,Ordinance; these four
staff. report, dated
changes are lained in..th&
anuary, ll;i- 1971. . sign
He. explained the
ordinance ..,� s fiery ery s imil,ar t&.the !, City of Novato Sign
-- Ordinance.,. The existing free
signs only where buildingis d ''set back at least 30
feet street -i
from. th.6 e t on.wh ch,)t e, fronts and the
height; is limited, to 30 feet' shopping centers and
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20-feet" or the height , of, -the. main..building, ..whichever
is lower for uses not in shop,ping.-centers. It was felt
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by.the'staff that�thd proposed sign,i'ordinance should.be
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hange4�mtq.,.a I low profile free- standing signs t
Tiot, exceed 5., feet in' square feet in
area on. sites where the ,,-,bulldin is set back less than
30 feet from the street. Mr. Hall asked the Commission
- address:Xhe nonconformin�g,sigijssue in ...which the
� requires :that.. all,-nonconforming signs be
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discontinued byApril 1, 1977, and added- the proposed i
ordinance-has no pr.ovison.for =-an amortization
calling for the discontinuance of� all nonconforming
signs.. He._recommended that. -all illegal .signs as dis-
tinguished 'from nonconforming signs be removed by
ordinance provision.
"Comm. Harberson stated the section• - describing noncon-
forming signs should 'be stated in simple ::terms. _;so ..that
if there is a ehange;in ownership of'a business.or a
change.in.,use, a.nonconforming sign would.be brought
- into conformance with the sign ordinance.
Mr. Hall.explained that in;every sign..o.rdinance..there
is purpose "that should be set forth. He stated that
safety .is° a valid consideration as far as signs are
concerned.., He sugg4s_ted that holiday light's as addressed
'in the original ordzn4nce.be excluded as -he did not
know of any' ts.that were asked for during the
holiday season. He some other items as
proposed in the. Committee's-ordinance be eli.mi-
nated as unnecessary.
Mr-r - - Hall stated in - some cities and counties„ ordinances
treat•each zoning district independently regarding the
regulations :of signs and if this procedure is adopted,
the ordinance be easier to administer, since the •
district provisions would be separated,.from.,the main
section of the sign ordinance. Each district would
• have a'provision for signs, namely; agricultural districts,
Commercial /industrial Districts, 'residential,, and PUD.
Mr.. Hall stated the sign committee proposed' that in the
event shopping center- has frontages on or more
public'streets additional free- standing signs are
permitted .on the additional frontage; only one.sign is
allowable .each frontage and the aggregate area of
the free- standing signs would be the
total allowable to the center. Additional free- standing
signs shall..not exceed 25 square feet nor a height to
exceed'15"feet. He asked the commission to determine
if this'provi'sion would - create a problem
Mr. Hall.stated the ordinance: treats flags and - pennants
alike perhaps there 'should -be a change in the language
and-the staff could deterininewhich would -be.t.he better
statement.
Mr. ',Hall suggested the: defini:t- on of glare .and ._indirect
glare °under Sections_ 22- 304_.1 `and .2 ,should continue to
be separated from the.sign,- ordinance.
Comm. :Harberson,stated political campaign -signs should
not-be--prohibited in , front yards, but said signs "should
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be removed after an election as they then-could-be
- considered litter _Mr.' Hall stated court- decisions
have been studied - in• Redwood° City'whereby.prohibition
-of political signs'was considered unconstitutional in
- . , certain cases
Fred Schram,.Chamber of Commerce, complimented.the
staff on their compar`son of- the Novato Ordinance and
the Petaluma Ordinance. He stated.the committee had
worked for. about-_ four months '.to ' come up with a draft
..report . 'The committee had: to find a document that
would be•workable the community. The existing
document had so not live
with Lt, so .we .selected° as a. °.the Novato Ordi-
nance. The. .document we have now is a document we can
- work with: He suggested a bi= annual inspection of
signs be made by.the Buildifig�Department. We need
specifies that can be p`r.e ed. to an applicant with a
new business; a document he will be able to read.
Mark Barber, member of the committees. s.:tated....befo.re.a
free-standing-.sign is allowed on a 30 -foot .setback, a
building would-have to be set back about 50 feet from
' the street. He would like have sign ordinance
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simple- so could understand it, and not a whole
book. He_stated a sign should have good readable
lettering,, and glare should not be-permitted.
Bill Jonas:, member of the,committee, stated we should
have an-ordinance-to allow for large signs and for
signs that are illegal' ; an ordinance that is
_ . good'for ,P.etaluma and the citizens .of Petaluma. The
'committee talked with several business people in town
on the type of signs they would consider. It was the
consensus to remove all signs that posed a safety'
hazard,, and.non- conforming signs remain until a busi
ness changes' hands.or a new sign is proposed. Mr.
Jonas thanked .the.staff for all their help. Chairman
Wright thanked= the'sign committee.for their input on
the sign
Mr. .Schram stated the`Project Area Committee-submitted
an addendum 'to .the..sign .ordinance for the purpose of
having a separate signing code f'or_the Downtown.Core
'Area that this areahas characteristics and a
cluster"of- , small shops unlike the larger commercial and
industrial areas;. Mr. Hall reviewed the proposal by
- the Projecf Area Committee.
Comm. Harberson suggested free - standing signs should be
permitted.as they are an adddd' asset to.the businessman.
He ,would like to see - a-..more simpl =ified .f,orm of abatement
procedures' ;.the abatement procedures of the City of
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Novato would ,,.t#kewab�q i d qRs erablewamount of staff -time.
fo s qqld b
a s-.'.gAa �.h l e..,removed when,
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-, ownership 'changes, and signs put
up without a permit shou-1d Signs should be
in conformance with the Another date
should. be conside j Qf A-Ap.ril 1, 1577', for the
.. .,. of; nonconformi
_ng , ..,qj_.gns.
:Waters
an ordinance be dta.f ted depict
ipg _the b,esjt _.pqjtion °.the into
,one, composite .j . ordinance stated :.the -draft
,,,,,.ordina:nce,�. discuss e4 y. Co mmission mission and,
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r _ Comm Wright tgd-that ini
. , standing, signs some-amstqnce�s, low free-
gn s m y
e p to signs erected on
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i4il,dings..._,_Mr�.�q state!4..,,.ppTbqp§ we .should have an
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o .4 ot in lieu Drovision�,,for free, stan ding signs that are low
profile.
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eo, ai.. d r af sign
ordin ance would uld.. be pre-
;pared and ajpublicheaiing wou set for the ..Plan-.T-
-ni gijCqmmission 9f-.,Eebruary,l, or as ..soon
thereafteri.,asi- pos sible . dep
pnding on the number of
other_, items to-, e,,heard-i
. gpg]Fi.,,.-Wrig4,t_ l requesi . - if ijeengAction Center could
,be-. considered - bef ore,.,,Char1es,,Lundstrom's rezoning
application pe this T;7as:tach
§oo1 might and many-
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,scho6l-..children,--were.,in-.the audience. This arrangement
,,�,,.�F4s,satisfactory
DANIEL_BARYkCK/ _the y,,. Barwick for % ,t#. a Hall exp�qined
the A Petaluma eopl �_
_�e,,qpryices, to convert an.
PERMIT, U19-r7&ISITE1 , , existing,-,residence located theccorner of *East Wash-
DESIGN REVIEW ;'r .r,,ingt9!j S•peev,.dnd .,Nor th.,jMcDowell -Blvd,. into a Teen
Action Center. Thei,,bjiildingis to �be used.as office
space and.a workshop area for artis'and-crafts programs.
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, -exvlained -- th& ap icant As proposing to
.:,..,acquire 4ritten !,f,rom the Petaluma Plaza
�,-T*Shopping ,CeLit,,er) to, allow .:,for the, of . f ive additional
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-estavailable.spaces are
; located iat Jeas t450jf§e from the- - .and pedestrian
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tre site -p arking lot _requires
crossing
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,,��ing�,,lot�-.accec.ss d' ive and North M
Blvd.
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,to consider--,t--he,,,Envito.rimiental Impact
Da Tq ,�aryick, representing
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Center ig�4 project
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would be an added facility. for - .City recreational acti-
vity use .The.site. would be used As.office.space.and
for County agency.and Police.Department referrals.
- There would- -not be any large group gatherings; approxi-
mately 10: -cars would utili:zng.the center over a
one -week period, which.should not.- add.to..the present.
traffic. ° The Center does not have
ad'equa'te' space
to some of their activities.
Marj Delgado neighbor, stated she had no objection
to the.proposed.center., Most of these children do not
drive,, so there- would not be additional .traffic in the
area. As far,as the Center creating any noise or
unsIghtlessness.,,`.her husband would not permit this to
happen. Brian Wimms,stated there:was no cause.why the
Teen Center - should not be allowed.'. The public hearing
was closed.
Comm..Harberson moved to direct the Planning Director.,
to prepare and p.o.st' a '.Negative Declaration .for the
project The motion - was seconded by Comm. Waters.
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The public hearing to• consider the Use Permit.was
opened: Bertha Wimms of the Probation Department,
® stated that , .many..youngsters frequent this intersection .
and there has not been a.problem as far as safety is
concerned. Mr. Barwick.presented a letter from-.the
Petaluma Plaza Merchant's,Association agreeing to allow.
parking of approximately five to ten ears in the shop-
ping dent'et parking, lot :next to .North McDowell Blvd.
between.McDonald',s and the Brandon Tire Store. The
Commission advised Mr. - Barwick t
a, obtain a written
I agreement from'the Petaluma Plaza Association that the
merchants .,were . -in accord with the use of the .parking
lot. Mrs Delgado stated their home was next.door to
the�prop0sed center and she and her husband were 100%
in favor of the property being-used as a Teen Center.
... the'Teew,.Center is allowed, more traffic control
will be provided in the area. The, only time there are
parking problems is,when this house is empty; we should
give the,Teen Center a try. She.would like to see a
sup - t where chldren; can go in place of
hanging out in the downtown section. Bonna Barrett
stated she, ;had contacted people in the neighborhood and
they 'were in support of 'thee Teen Center.
Comm.,Harberson questioned what other location..had.been
investigated 'for a Teen Center? `Mr. Barwick stated
commercial 'zoned property is 35c a ~ square foot and this
price s`out 'of,.range for the center. We need a loca-
} ton that -is accessible to the east and west side.
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John Allison .stated - the - :People Center is
located,on °the;.busily traveled Petaluma.Blvd.. North
which' creates a- problem for 'access to the .p.ro,p.erty.
" Several hundred d -rop. into- the center ,during a
.month and there have never- been= any.: problems as a
resul't°.-of :;,vandalism ':or-;.wh, ere .the police had to be
called „'', :The p- ublic .hearing closed,. Mr.- ::..Hall
stated the main concern of -staff was that _parking was
not in roximit
p y .and of the .center .would
have - to.-- cso.ss busy streets of North McDowell • and
Washington ..Street. -- Also =, - the- nearest available, parkin_ g
spaces exceed the. maximum of 300 ...
feet but.' perhaps this' would not , create, -a problem and a
variance could..he granted. Comm. Popp s -tated that as a
condition -.of the -, use - permit parking could be reviewed.
Mr: Barwick`.stated.the Recreation Department had been
contacted and a'Teen drop -in program will started.
Comm. Popp moved,'to grant Use:.Permit-to allow for a
' Teen Action Center... The motion was - seconded by Comm..
Harb'erson.
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Comm. Harberson;- stated -that-Condition M • requires
the - ,.Teen' :Center'.:sha1.1 • -no t; be occupied' by ,more than ten
- - persons at one time 'should, be deleted <as.,this require-
ment is ;unenforceable and not , required. Mr. Barwick
requested.the_.condition under #4 to provide a
exit from, the rear of the: building:, be deleted. Mrs.
Delgado stated the house has a front door access and
large.-windows in the rear which.could be used as exits.
Comm: Wright°.stated the•Building Code mandates that
other- .exits,be provided and the condition.that a second
exit from-_the .rear' of the building . be .:provided' should
be discussed with. the Building- Department. Comm. Popp
moved to ap:prove:the. site design for the proposed' Teen
Action Center:.with conditions of approval .as recommen-
ded b the.s aff with-the following changes:
Condition shall be deleted:
. .The - motion was Comm., Harberson.
AYES 4
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CHARLES,LUNDSTROM Mr:, Hall expained. the request.by Charles Lund's_trom to
E.I.,Q. EVALUATION/ rezone 2,9 acres located-,:4t607 East'Madison,Sareet
REZONING..FRQM`_ from - . R =1= 6;.500 to' R- C" , :( Compact Residential):. The _site
R -1 -6, 5.00; 10 .R -7C`: - _ is - bordered on enorth, by the Petaluma .River and
(COMPACT: RESIDENTIAL): single =f q .residences one' -,a1-1 other- sides. The lot
is - proposed to -be subdivided into small lots for low
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cost cluster development and no
plans have been submitted at: this time. The.adjoi.ning
lot' to the east' is' 725 feet in ' length, but only 89 feet
in width and develo'pnent' of - the proposed site without
ihc'lusion. of this neighboring- parcel would practically
k render undevelopable' because of its inadequate lot
width. . ,Access ;to the, site is' provi °ded via Madison
Street the south and an' unimproved city owned access
easement to the'west.
Af er' 66AsiderabTe discu'ssion''b ' the commission, Comm.
Waters moved that the applicant withdraw his app.lica-
j tion to :rezone the "proposed property as insufficient
l information had been submitted ° by the applicant, and
that a new application along with plans, be submitted.
for.develo:pment - of the property; ..that the applicant
Should- attempt .to acquire the adjoining-lot to the east
for'access of said property,; and, further, that fees
+' for re- submittal should - be waived. The motion was made
without prejudice. The motion was,seconded by Comm.
Popp.' Mr. 1.4ndstrom. verbally withdrew his application
and agreed submit a letter' to withdraw his appli-
cation.
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I It was.a unanimous decision of -the. Commission to con-
tinue th.e - meeting past the hour of 10 :30 p.m.
JOHN 'DOBERNECK /.E.I.Q. Mr.. Hall explained the request by John .Doberneck to
EVALVATIONJVARIANCE allow two variances f.or; room additions in the rear
REQUEST': and left.side,yard of the property located at 515 "C"
Street.. Surrounding the site are single- family homes
to the east-,and south, a duplex to the west and St.
John's:Ep.scopal Church'to, the, north. A family room
addition is proposed to be located in the rear yard and
six feet from the rear property 'line, and an attached
two car garage,is proposed-to be situated six feet from
the left "sid'e property ,line and contiguous to _the rear
property line. - The house is in,'a dilapidated condition
and' entire sife is :in .need of additional. care.
The public, hearing to consider the Environmental. Impact
Questionnaire was opened. No comments were offered
from and public.hearing was closed.
Comm. Waters moved. to direct the Planning Director to
prepare and,post,a.Nega.tive Declaration for the project.
The' motion - was seconded by Comm..Popp.
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- The public hearing to consider a variance for the
project..was .opened., Mr: Doberneck stated :the house was
built.-in '1888, and he would like to preserve.:and re-
store the house to its historical New England style.
The lnt:erior be redecorated and made into' -a two
bedroom home Comm: Harberson stated that ;renovation
of this property- would. improve the, neighborhood.' Comm.
Popp stated any improvement in this area -mould be' an
.. asset. - Mr. Hall stated there was in the front
portion of the house to make this room addition, in
place of the.suggeste& ba'ckroom addition. The public
hearing was closed
Comm: Popp moved.to grant the variances:bas.ed on the
findings:,ndicated in the staff report, and further
findings that.:
1) Any`changes.made in front of the house would
creat'e' ;hardship peculiar to the property, because
of its historical significance.
2 Other residences in the vicinity have the same
similar nonconforming setbacks.
t he motion was seconded by Comm. Harberson.
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JOHN 0. YOUNG.FOR Mr Hall. explained the request by John Young for Pauline.
PAULINE :LERER /:E..L.;Q., , - Lerer °,for-• a. proposed two lot split and modification to
EVALUATION /MODLFICA- the Subd'ivis on'Ordinance to allow for one lot to have
TION...TO SUBDIVISION an average depth of 95 feet where 100 feet.-is required,
ORDINANCE; °' for property located at 212 kill Street. The, 19,150
square foot Iot`is unimproved and extremely steep. The
proposed lot split would - result in two lots, both of
which would be over 9,000 sq.. ft..in area..
The public "hearing to consider the Environmental.Impact
Questionnaire was opened. No comments were...offered
from -, the°audi'en:ce and. the public hearing was closed.
Comm;.Harberson - moved to direct the.Planriing Director
to prepar.e•and post a Negative-Declaration for the
project. The motion, was seconded by Comm. Popp.
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Comm moved a modification to the.Subdi-
vision' Ordinance " be granted; "to;the.proposed two. lot
. split for St
property located at 212 Hill reet to..allow
the of•one lot with.an average depth of 95
feet where the Subdivision Ordinance requires 100 feet,
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due to eculiar - circumstances and .lot configuration of
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the property, The motion by Comm. Waters.
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ADJOURNMENT:. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned
at 10:50 p.m.
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