HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 09/07/1977MINUTE S
PETALUMA CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
• REGULARJ'MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS CITY HALL
SEPTEMBER 7, 1977
7:30 P.M.
PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA
Present1: Comm. Head, 'Horciza, Lavin *, Shearer, Waite, Wright
( *Arrived 7:40
Absent;! Comm. Balshaw
Staff: i Ronald F. Hall, PlanningDrector
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes of the meetings of ; August 16, 1977, August
23, 1977, and August 24, 1977, were approved as
submitted.
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CORRESPONDENCE: Mr..Hall stated he had received a phone call from Del
Davis regarding the Drafe E.;I.R. for the planned resi-
dential'subdivisions, east of • Ely Blvd. South, requesting that the hearing be
postponed until the meetingg.of September 20, 1977, so their traffic engineer
would have the completed information and also be able to consult with the City
Engineer, It was the consensus that this item be placed on the Planning Com-
mission[Agenda for September.20, 1977.
CONSENTICALENDAR The motion was made by Comm. Horciza, seconded by Comm.
i Head, to.approve Items 1. through 4. Motion was carried
unanimously.
Agenda Item 1 Duane Kenny, Negative Declaration and Site Design Res.
? 5.484 approving industrial warehouse complex to be lo-
cated at 421 Payran Street.
Agenda Item 2 C. W. Dawson, Site Design Res,.'5.483 approving addition
to•the:Boulevard Bowl located at 1100 Petaluma Blvd.
South.
Agenda Item 3 Peter Mico, Negative Declaration and Site Design Res.
5.489 approving restaurant located at 330
Western Avenue.
Agenda Item 4 Cal Schmidt, Site Design Res. 5.488 approving front ex-
terior alteration to the Roger'Wi.lco Store located at
621 East Washington Street..
LARRY ibNAS- E.I.Q. Mr. Hall explained the request Lawrence Jonas for a
EVALUATION /USE PERMIT /. reduction parking spaces for a proposed restaurant/
SITE DESIGN REVIEW: office building to be located at 206 Weller Street.
The proposed development includes dental offices on the
gTound: floor and a restaurant on the top floor. Lot 1, which abuts the Peta-
luma River, covers 6,400 square 'feet and contains the proposed building. Lot
2, located -on the opposite side of Weller Street, covers 11,000 square feet and
is to be developed with a 23 =space parking lot.
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A discussion „was held o_n the rear setback requirements and the-request the
applicant for a,25% reduction in the no required number of tparking .spaces.
Comm,;.-Lavin commented that normally 25 -foot setbacks are required, but only 14
feet, are proposed -for _ this projrec't. -Mr.:Hall explained that this isl a diffi
cult ,site to develop. If a boardwalk - is built along the property waterfront,,
the boardwalk could be taken into consideration, with the idea of providing a
form.of open space.
The Public Hearing to consider the. Environmental Impact Questionnaire was
opened. Comm. Horciza stated this project would be an improvement to the•
property, the environment and the Petaluma River.
Comm. Horciza moved to direct the Planning Director to prepare and post a
Negative Declaration for the project. The motion was seconded by Comm. Head.,
AYES 6 NOES 0 ABSENT 1
The Public Hearing to consider.the Use -Permit was opened.
Larry Jonas.stated the_proper intrigued him because of the view;of the river.
He,likedthe proposal for a b.oardwailk. He. realized parking, was a, problem, but -
tried'to the.problem.as much as possible: He indicated that Wally
Kieckhef'er would' let him have use of the Golden Eagle Shopping Center parking
area after 5:;00 p.mi Comm: Wright questioned_ if there would be a written
agreement with Mr. Kieckhefer relative to the parking area. Mr. Jonas - stated
there would.beo Comm. Head said if 'the lease were cancelled. the
have -'any parking;.. Parking. is primarily dependent�on a 3 -year lease; if the.
lease is no;t renewed, parking for the project could-then-become a burden on-the
City by cars parking -on Weller Street. Mr. Jonas -the City was
concerned about- parking but he was-also concerned about the prosper.ty�of_ his
business. Mr.. Jonas stated that Mr Kieckhe:fer would give him a 3-year lease
from thereon, the lease would be on.a year to year basis,.but no longer period
of time would be committed. He explained that Skip Sommer's Farrell House
project,-located on-We.11er.Street - at the Petaluma River, had the seating capa-
city for the restaurant .increased by the Planning ,Commission at December,
1976' . meeting to reflect not only automobile parking but docking.faci.lities as,
well and further that the seating capacity should not-exceed the requirements
of the Fire.Marshal.. Mr. Jonas stated the added parking would be the.-river,
and the•Kieckh_efer.parking 'lot. Comm. Wright asked what traffic would be
expected from the river? Mr. Jonas stated he :antici.pated 80 to 1.00 restaurant
patrons. Comm. Shearer stated if the de.velopment.wer.e a success, there would
be a number vehicles parking.all.day .long and, suggested the applicant obtain
an option to-lease, parking spaces. Comm.-Head did not -feel, that other people's
,property rights should be enf'ringed upon in-order to provide parking. Mr.
Jonas asked that. he..be given the benefits as the Farrell House. Comm.
Horciza stated it, questionable tospeculate.there will be a large volume of
traffic from- ,the river. Mr.. Jonas asked for -°a seating capacity, of 90-for the
restaurant and 30 parking spaces,at river docking facilities. The Public
Hearing was closed.
Comm.'Lavin moved .to,,gr,an.t the Use Permit subject to the conditions as recom-
mended :by the staff : The motion died for _Lack of:.a second
Comm. Horciza moved-to grant the ,Use. Per-mit . t.he ,.proposed restaurant /office
building , subject to the following conditions:
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• 1. The seating capacity -of the restaurant.shall not exceed thirty -five (35)
unless.additional off - street parking, approved by the-Planning Director, is
obtained within 300 feet of the building
2. At fhe end of three years, equivalent parking shall be secured for the
development.
The motion was seconded by Comm. Shearer.
AYES 5 NOES 1 ABSENT 1
Comm. Head moved to approve the site design for the proposed restuarant /office
building with conditions of approval as recommended:by the,staff and concurred
with bylthe Architectural & Site Design Review Co e mmitte with the following
changes;
The motion was seconded by Comm. Shearer.
AYES 5 NOES 1 ABSENT 1
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Comm. Head moved to approve the site design for the proposed restaurant /office
building with conditions of approval as recommended by the staff and concurred
with by'the Architectural & Site Design Review Committee with the following
changes; :;
Condition 1 - Delete the following from Condition 1 - An automatic irrigation
system for both lots.
Condition 3 - Reworded to read: All electrical and mechanical equipment and
the trash enclosure shall.'be adequately screened in.a manner deemed appropriate
by the Manning Director. The proposed trash container shall be relocated at
least ten (10) feet away from the front property line.
itign 10— Delete Last sentence,.
The motion was seconded by Comm. Horciza:
AYES 6 .NOES 0 ABSENT 1
PETALUMA;PLAZA- E.I.Q. Mr. Hall explained the request.of Mark Barber to allow
EVALUATION /VARIANCE, for a uniform s gn.identi- fication program along the -
REQ.UEST: south wall of the Petaluma Plaza.Shopping,Center for
the ,purpose of providing specific rear wall advertising
exposure to the commercial users of East Washington Street. The signs would
measure ;2 feet by 8 to.12 feet in size depending the required lettering per
sign.. Each sign would be interior -illuminated by high output tubes.,,within
individual 24_gage-gaint -lock galvanizedi box housings:..
Comm..Horciza.moved..
NegativelDeclaration
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AYES 6
to direct the.,Plarining Director to prepare and post a
for -the project. The motion was seconded by Comm. Waite.
NOES 0
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Comm. Horciza stated that the'basis for the. variance .'request. could. be found in
the four findings of Section 26-303 of the Zoning Ordinance.: If the signs were
familiar and the passing motorists dd have to study them, they could not,
be considered a hazard. It•would take motorists more time to study signs
stacked on one building than signs mounted on indivi.dual`build•ings.
The public hearing to consider a variance for the project was opened.
Mark Barber, of Barber Sign Co.., stated the sign identification program is
needed to properly-identify-the site aa'a shopping center and not a warehouse.
The sign illumination as far as cars are concerned can•be toned down. The 2-
foot sign would have-12" lettering and this would not jump out,''parti:cularly if
the illumination is-cut down., --Also, all the •signs would not be• visible at one
time. Comm.. Wright asked if the signs were at the option oft.he tenant..
Mr— Barber they were,, and once-the-sign was mounted it was up to stay.
The sign box would be permanent, but the,plastic name plate is 'removed and
replaced for a new tenant. Chuck Lewis, manager of the.J. C. Penney store,
stated.the.signing of.their store was very poor. The first impression from the
highway of the shopping center is that -.it is a warehouse. The appearance of
the shopping center from Washington Street is bad. He would like to make the
J. -C. :Penney building more pleasing to The public hearing was
closed.
Comm. ' Head moved to grant a variance for the Petaluma Plaza Shopping Center to-
allow for a uniform sign•identifcation program based on the following con-
ditions.:
1. The entire rear walls of the subject. Petaluma Plaza buildings;, which are to
display the.app : roved signs, are to.be painted and all 16 signs shall be shown
to be illuminated.to the satisfact;ion.of..the Planning Director prior to the
issuance. of a sign. permit
2. A11proposed revisions indicating the conditioned—variance changes includ-
ing the proposed paint .color of the rear wall, sign - illumination, and specific
sign design and placement shall be submitted 'to the Planning Department on
revised plans for review and approval prior to the issuance of :a sign permit.
3. The - applicants, sign.designer., and.consitruction contractor shall comply_
with all.other applicable.City ordinances, performance standards., and other
regulations.
The motion was seconded by Comm: Horciza.
AYES 4 . NOES 2 ABSENT 1
WESTERN AVENUE Mr -.. Hall explained that the City Council was- :concerned.
HILZSIDE.AREA over- piecemeal annexation and development of the'
SPECIFIC PLAN;: Western Avenue Hillside area and directed the Planning
Department. -to: undertake a specific area plan the
area. 'Th& Western .Avenue Hillside area s approximately -133-acres and is a
sub- drainage basin located south of Western Avenue and west of the LaCresta
Drive area.
Mr. Hall asked for input from the Western Avenue property owners on what they
considered the future use of the area should be,.and that the Commission make a
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determination on whether a study should be made of the entire basin or if the
study area should be narrowed down.
Comm. Wright explained this is public input on what public feels should be
done with the area. It is a process of getting id'eas this time. Comm.
Waite questioned if the entire area could be sewered by gravity? Mr. Hall
stated that sewer connections are possible for.the entire,area.
Jim Ceresa, a resident, questioned the time factor involved in the study. Mr.
Hall explained it would be a time consuming project, possibly taking about 3
months. If this area should become apart of the City within the next 10
years, .a should-be made on it. Mr. Wians stated he was in no hurry to
have this property developed.
D. Jose ,'ph, 1801 Western Avenue, ,owner of 1/3 acre, needed more information on
lot sizes, 'how fast annexation would take.place,.and the number of acres the
park would consume. Ken Rhode, representing California Water Service Co.
owners of 13.6 acres, expressed interest in seeing English Street extended into
their p:,r.operty. This would benefit the land- locked owner of 5 acres near.
Chileno] Valley Road. .Concern was expressed by others about taxes if the
property is made into smaller lots.., Comm. Wright explained that if development
takes place near their property, assessments could change. Mr. Hall stated
that if study is made, it might determine that 5 acres would be the average
size of the lots.
Mr. Cer,'sa asked if it would be mandatory to have sewerage if the property were
annexed to the City. Mr. Hall 'explained there would be no immediate effort to
annex to: the City. Mr. Ceresa stated these properties cannot have City ser-
vices unless the property owner pays for the services. Comm. Wright explained
that in annexations the property does not.have to have sidewalks and sewerage.
Mr. Ceresa stated the City would not skip property to annex, but would take in
an entire block, and the property owner would have to pay City taxes along with
County ,taxes. Mr. :Hall explained that better services would be made available
through�lannexation, namely fire and police protection.
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Mr. Burmeister, 1423 Western Avenue, owner of 12 ; acres, like the status quo.
A resident stated he liked the -rural area and would like it left the way it is.
A. resident of 1591 Western Avenue, owner of 16.acres, expressed concern,on how_
the change would affect her chicken ranch. Mr. Hall stated a determination
would have to be made on whether people wanted smaller lot sizes or a more
rural area. Mrs. Roy K,imba,lL, 1845 Western Avenue, owner of 1/2 acre, stated
deer now come on their property and they want it to remain im its present
state.
Mr. Hal -1 asked if the property, owners wanted the staff to prepare a study. One
resident stated there is no need as the study is too costly and time consuming,
esp,ec ally ti?h;en ,they did not, , want . the area changed. Mark Ammons, stated most of
the people have lived in the area-for a number of years and tley like it the
way it is. Mr. Hall explained' that the`County is in the process of adopting a
General Plan and the residents of the Western hillside area should keep in-
formed of the County pr °bp — 1 : . Mr. Ammons stated he -was satisfied with the way
the'County "was handling the area now.' If the City goes ahead with the plan,
th'e property owners will all have to have City sewerage.
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Comm: Wright 'stated the City Council 'was concerned` about piecemeal development
and a. study should be undertaken to determine the desires of the 'people.
The public" hearing wa's closed:
Comm. Head stated there should be a circulation plan to determine.where'roads
would -be located so that problems'would 'not arise such as the Bodega,Avenue
area. Mr.. Hall stated this would be necessary if there is an increase in the
number.of lot splits° Comm. Head stated we- should think'15 t6`2& years ahead
As far as road's: and boundaries `are Concerned so - that property owners will - know
the roads° and, circulation patterns for the area:
Mr. Ammons demands rights. of -way, if the land is to be.sold
it has to :have a right -of' -way. Comm Head s;tated.a study Would determine the
right width's for streets according to City standards. Comm, Horeiz'a stated the
study should be an.overall plan'to - include lot sizes and street patterns.
Comm. Head moved that a.circulation study be made of the area. The'mot'ion died
for lack "of a second.
Comm. 'Waite moved that a general study be made,.but limited 'to the areas most,'
adla the Citv. The motion was seconded by Comm. Horciz'a.
AYES: 5 NOES 1 ABSENT. 1
If was the general consensus that the, meeting be continued- pas'tthe hour of
10:30 p:m.
ZONING ORDINANCE. Mr. Hall explained :the -request was to- revise -the Zoning
AMENDMENT TO,ADD Ordinance.to 'allow for' increased._d'ecking coverage'in
SECTION 22:40.1.6- -front and rear yard areas. This would allow an extra
E.T..Q.. EVALUATION/ 5% coverage of the yard'and 40% coverage of the
ZONING ORDINANCE rear yard.
AMENDMENT
The Public.Hearing to consider the Environmental .Impact
Questionnaire was - opened. N&-commiants were offered from the audience and the
Public Hearing was closed. Comm. La-vin.moved.to . direct the: Planning* Director
to prepare and post a Negative Declaration for the project The motion was
seconded by Comm. -Head.
AXES 6' NOES 0 ABSENT• 1
It was the general . consensus -that the proposal was restricted to-decks and not
to structures.
The Public Hear ng opened - , to consider 'the proposed Zoning Ordinance Amend-
ment-to allow for increased decking in front and rear yards..... No comments were
offered from.the audience and the.Piiblic Hearing was closed.
Comm. Lavin. moved to recommend approval of the requested Zoning Ordinance.
Amendment by adding Section 22.401.6 to the -City Council with the.f'ollowing
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The amendment.is in conformance :with the General and Environmental Design Plans
and is ' with the public necessity, convenience, and general welfare.
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The motion was seconded by Comm. Head..
AYES 6 NOES 0 ABSENT 1
WALT WILLIAMS AND RAY Mr Hall explained the developers of the Miwok Manor
V. AGUIRRE /DISCUSSION Subdivision requested a reduction in the requirements
ITEM: of low cost housing.
Walt Williams, developer stated they were having problems selling their 2-
bedroomllow- income houses. The price of the 2- bedroom home is now $47;750 and
the 3- bedroom was $59,75:0. They are building two and three bedroom homes, but
out of:the first 50 homes, the four bedroom homes -sold first and only five (5')
2- bedroom homes -sold. They do not want to delete the -2- bedroom, but want the
public to have something they like.
Comm. Head questioned why people in this area had to-pay more for their houses
than-in iother areas? Mr. Williams explained there is no competition here.
Whenever there is a control on -a commodity, the prices go up. Mr. Ernest
Vivas, a neighbor of the subdivision, stated that low- income people would like
a 3 bedroom house with a fireplace and a double oven and be able to live like
the rest of the people.
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Comm. Hgrciza stated that under the allotment system -each developer received
points for providing low cost here we are - considering scratching
this item on low- income housing.. Mr. Williams"stated it appeared to him that
Petaluma is in a unique situation as we do not -have these low- income, $800.00
to $1,200.00 people in this area. There is no.market f.or this house -even if we
build it. Comm. Wright stated a man. cannot be forced to build something that
he c'annot..sell. Comm. Waite.commented. that $47,750 could not be considered
low - income housing. Mr. Williams indicated that he has built 5 of the 2-
bedroom homes of the the required 20. He asked if he could build the 2- bedroom
as requested by a buyer,.
Comm. Shearer moved to reduce-the requirement for the low cost housing, but the
2- bedroom home be retained and that it be available.and built for people as
requested. The motion was seconded by Comm. Lavin.
AYES 6 NOES 0 ABSENT. l
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ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 11:30 p.m.
Chairman
Attest: "
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