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s.. r e C Forum Workshop.
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Saturday, April 1 D, 2004- 7:00 PM..10 ®® PM
Community Center
320 North McDowell Boulevard,
Petaluma, CA 94952
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1 MOBILITY
INFO: Mitigating local congestion by widening streets such as East Washington Street,
Petaluma Boulevard downtown; Lakeville, may adversely impact the walkable
character and quality of , lifee' along those streets,. To avoid' significantly widening
specific streets increased congestion, during peak hours (commute times), is
unavoidable. Citizens have stated. that Petaluma's community character is worth
saving and more important than rush hour conditions..
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QUESTION: IS INCREASED CONGESTION DURING, THE COMMUTE HOURS
ACCEPTABLE TO AVOID WIDENING STREET_ S?
® Cars are dinosaurs. Get with it!
® The most severe problem is the. lack of traffic signal coordination, specifically on
Washington Street and. McDowell `Boulevard. You need to ,resolve the issue with Cal -
Trans so the traffic flows longer and more fluidly between the two adjacent lights.
® Look at success stories in. other cities across the nation; especially those like Petaluma
that want to retain. charm and, accessibility, both for quality of life' and economic
development reasons. Increase pedestrian opportunities and bike lanes. Get the trolley
running on west. side. Increase downtown and near -to -town opportunities to walk, bike
and use some type of public transportation.
® Congestion of traffic is fine at peak time and is a small cost to pay to have more
pedestrian.opportunities.
® Make Washington Street one -way west bound from Petaluma Boulevard to Webster.
® Make Western o:ne -w.ay east bound from Webster to Petaluma Boulevard.
® Why are industrial and business areas built without sidewalks? It is unsafe to walk in
business parks to Petaluma.
® Why are the street's so narrow in the Auto Mall area? No parking was provided for
employees so they now park on narrow streets which makes it even less safe to walk?
0 Experiment and install all manner of traffic calming ideas.
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® Need cross -town connector!! •
® Constant accommodation to the car is not the answer. More congestion means more
watershortage'd.ue to increased use for every new building.
P I love my car, but I would also like some other options too —like walking, biking and riding
the bus. Right now, our options and choices are extremely limited to the auto. Need bike
commuting choices.
If traffic becomes too congested, it will discourage people from shopping in Petaluma.
/ Too much emphasis on walking /biking alternatives (wishful thinking), ' to elevate traffic
congestion,, which will again discourage downtown shopping.
® If there is too much congestion on East Washington Street, it will discourage both east
side residents and out -of -town shoppers. from shopping, in the ;downtown area as both
traffic and parking will be inconvenient ... this will reduce sales tax revenue.
/ Additional parking in the fairgrounds area could be an idea to reduce the downtown
parking issue, 'Could the trolley project transport shoppers from a general parking area to
the downtown to shop, thereby reducing traffic in the downtown core and promoting retail
sales?
1 We must plan the physical development of our communitywith r the understanding that the
private auto is doomed as the primary mode of transportation. All land use should be
designed around bus, train, bike and foot modes of movement. Car- based planning
.cannot be sustained, either in terms of future' petroleum supplies, suburban sprawl,
pavement of arable land, g elo
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® What is the true likelihood of a rail access In Petaluma? How can we ensure that we will
have funding /regional support? I think it is critical that we have rail in downtown.
The price of oil is ; going up. Oil is not a renewable resource and eventually we will not
have any; therefore, alternative resources should'be an important consideration.
0 A factor to consider is that a large number of tourists come to Petaluma for many
reasons. ' If they have that miserable traffic congestion to come and go; then we do not
gain in buying power. it is not a matter of what has priority you need "both.
Plan for people and pedestrians, inot. cars.
® Is there a valid basis for assuming that widening East Washington will actually improve
the flow of cars, let alone make the street better for people? Really, what- is the basis for
this assumption? I have read ; about studies that disapprove of this notion.
® It seems like there 'are alternatives to this question'. It implies that the only options are
wide streets for cars or narrow streets for cars: What about more transportation options?
Like better transit, more bike and pedestrian - paths. Could we find about more about
commutes so, we can improve transportation for commuters in other ways besides
making all the roads bigger?
P Mobility is related at least as much - to land use – where stuff is, where people need to go
for the stuff they want as it .is to paving over the ground we l'i've with. Please do not
persist in the single- minded assumption that widening streets is what affects mobility.
This has not been :studied to hold true over time. (NB – the East Bay, Orange County,
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Lets move- traffic sifting poor in traffic is a quality of life and we need to strike a proper
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balance.
® Congestion is good. It is needed to convince people to use other modes (walking, biking,
transit). More people walking and biking makes the City more livable.
® An actual transit system would help a tot. l am talking about buses that would service
areas other that the malls.
® Increase bike path safety and corridors for school kids and adults. As traffic and
congestion increases, pedestrian and bikes are left at odds and safety drops.
® Look forward not back. Other communities have excellent examples of increasingly
pedestrian and bike - friendly transportation arrangements. All would be consistent with
and `enhance the quality of life and charm that draws people and visitors (and
money /economic development) to Petaluma. Congestion (traffic) during peak times is a
small price to pay for all the rest of the day, evening and: weekends.
® Bicycles, bicycles, bicycles!! Provide bike lockers at transit stations for rent.
Businesses over 30 employees must provide /encourage bus passes,
locker /showers for cyclists.
® Widening streets rnay'not be necessary if we create alternative outlets. I am very
concerned about widening Petaluma Boulevard downtown.
® Feet, bikes, buses and support for them to be preferred to cars. I have lived in
New York City and Portland and our commute in Petaluma across town is not so
bad.
® Consider making street narrower downtown.
® It is possible. that Petaluma Boulevard would flow more freely for people, bikes and
cars if we had three lanes through downtown? It would also then be a more
enjoyable thoroughfare and more welcoming, for shoppers and businesses.
/ Capacity should not be expanded in the downtown ' area. Keep it as is or even
reduce capacity. Lakeville is already maxed out as is. Consider expansion
(widening) of Old Redwood overpass and Corona overpass. Addition congestion is
acceptable in most locations noted.
® Build in new infrastructure for pedestrians and bicycles, but no to widening East
Washington and Petaluma Boulevard North.
One -way streets!
® Congestion duri`rg peak. hours is acceptable. Build bigger roads and invite more
traffic and development. Visit San Jose to see what that leads to.
Increased congestion is acceptable; widening the street downtown is not. I like the
idea above of snaking some streets downtown narrower and maybe even closing
some: to traffic so the outdoor area in front of,stores and restaurants can be used.
® If widening fhe streets will lower the quality of life along these main streets,
community living,, members will have to be the first priority and increased
congestion will have to be acceptable.
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2. MOBILITY
INFO: The 'traditional "grid system" of streets provides the most efficient and
.effective mobility system's. With three north -south barriers (Highway 101,
the River .and the Railroad), Petaluma is challenged to improve the east -west
grid'. One or two additional, cross -town connectors could _spread the traffic
flow and offer alternative routes for all modes, of transportation. The Land
Use & Mobility Alternatives Report provides the following alternatives:
Alt. A. Extend Rainier Avenue through a Highway 1`01 underpass and a full
Highway 101 interchange, to connect to Petaluma. Bouleva=rd North;
add Caulfield :Lane Extension to. cross the Petaluma River to Petaluma
Boulevard South (Southern Crossing).
Alt. B.lmprove Corona Road with full Highway 101 interchange; provide
cross -town connection by extending Rainier ,Avenue through a
Highway 101 underpass, toe ' onhect to Petaluma Boulevard North; add
Caulfield Lane Extension t cross the Petaluma "River` to Petaluma
Boulevard South .(Southern Crossing).
Alt-. C. Extend Rainier Avenue ,through ,a Highway 101 :underpass to connect
to Petaluma Boulevard North;, widen Corona Road overpass and
provide a full Highway ;101 interchange; add Caulfield. Lane Extension
to cross the Petaluma River to •Petaluma Boulevard South (Southern •
Crossing).
QUESTION: IN AN EFFORT TO INCREASE
AND INCREASE COMMUNITY
PRIORITIES FOR ENHANCING
East/West, or both):
CROSS -TOWN MOBILITY OPPORTUNITIES
CONNECTIVITY, LIST - YOUR HIGHEST
CROSS- TOWN MOVEMENT (North/South,
® Let the experts decide which north connector is best and then leaving it to the political
process to :get it done.
® In thinking about development, this is 'an ;issue that should be fundamental. Because of
lack of forethought or perhaps just because of developers bugging and developing pieces
of land here and there, there are, :as one gets closer to the boundaries of' the City, series
of , dead -end roads, contorted little pathways through developments, and a general sense
of separateness = congested separateness.
East/West — Alternative B.— Rainer is too close to Washington Street and should only be
an on /off ramp.
® Too ambitious. Just extend Caulfield. Forget about Rainier. We have Washington,
Corona and Redwood Highway. The addition of Caulfield extension is enough. These
other connectors are simply to force unnecessary development.
® Alternative B with 'bike lanes under Rainier.
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. .Alternative B. Corona is a better alternative for afreeway on -ramp because it connects to
roads further to the east and west; i.e., Adobe. Road. Rainier would not be as successful
in releaving traffic pressures.
Why not have an option for Rainier to have a Highway 101 'interchange on all three
Alternatives; we need- that to avoid another underutilized cross -town connector like
Corona.
1 Alternative A is definitely the best. This allows easy access to the retail outlets and
downtown retail growth. Without the east. side, will find' it easier to shop outside of
Petaluma.
® Alternative C with bike lanes on Rainier.
® Alternative A should be the alternative as it was originally planned to give access to
Petaluma Valley Hospital and relieve Washington which is a nightmare most of the time.
Also, Corona would not sustain the traffic,
® Alternative A — both for Washington Street relief and. to minimize development pressure
further north.
® North, Rainier, Caulfield. and East Washington connector. Four lanes for Old Redwood
Highway.
® Rainier cross -town connector was promised to be built in about 1976. It is about time it is
completed.
0 ® As density increases, moving people efficiently can be done with a network of bike lanes
and pedestrian paths. In the knot so distant future as Petaluma gets congested, people will
only travel as far as necessary rather than racing all over town. Alternative mobility links
will be important.
® Mobility in people's lives is determined by the ability to circulate to the places one wants
and needs to go. Ready access to frequently visited .locations (bank, grocery, post office)
dispersed around the community makes travel in ,Petaluma easier and even friendlier.
This is a sustainable, human- level alternative to wide, unfriendly, traffic - filled streets
connecting freeways and "big box "' low -wage employees.
® .I would like to see a transit line that goes back 'and forth on Washington all day long so
you could catch a bus or train, whichever one, every 1'5 minutes. I know if I thought I
could actually find a bus within 15 minutes, I would use it and lots of other people would
to — maybe we could try this first.
® Corona as an interchange and include a transit site at Corona, yes.
/ An alternative to more cross -town mobility is to have some (any) youth sport facilities on
the west side. W:e need :to lessen cross-town at 5 6 pm. Do this by giving kids a place
to play on the west side.
® Bicycle transportation must be facilitated throughout the City and promoted. The town is
flat and can truly utilize this mode. This includes accommodating bikes in cross -town
connectors all of them.
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3. MOBILITY •
INFO: On: the northern portion of the City, all analysis to date identifies 'Rainier as
providing the most relief as well as feasibility (physical and financial participation
options): �If built as an underpass with connections to adjacent land with
development potential and bicycle lanes and sidewalks to connect- to existing and
new pathways.
QUESTION; WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE BUILDING OF THE RAINIER CROSS -TOWN
,EXTENSION AND HIGHWAY 101 INTERCHANGE?
/ Well; -we love Petaluma. We did not choose Anaheim or East Bay. 1 do .not envision how
paving into and over part of the heart of our River beauty and heritage, that is, and can
be a ;source of recreation and beauty in our community forever and how this could
enhance'the' quality of life for us. The River helps enrich Petaluma. It is` value. Rainier
development would decrease that forever: Congestion may very well .get worse whether
We develop Rainer or not. Why lose a tremendous resource in the process More roads
means more cars.
/ It is true that a Rainier route may decrease congestion on East Vllashington; however,
with more roads comes more cars and more cars on Rainier means more consumer
availability. Businesses will buy up all the land around the area. and it will go from
residential to business area. In the end we will be left with the same congestion in both
places and lost resource.
/ Historically environmental reviews in Petaluma appear lacking. Whatever connector
produces the least environmentai impact, do that one.
Underpass is so much better than overpass. Bicycles must be accommodated.
Decentralize facilities so less traffic is needed.
® All three proposals assume a Rainier crossing. Is this already a done deal?
1 I would only suggest the Rainier crossing if it did not have a significant environmental
impact and did not facilitate retail development in the flood zone.
/ Agree with the above, but no interchange.
/ No to Rainier.
/ Will the underpass to Rainier be "above grade "' to the lowest flood level. in the Corona
Reach area? I think not.
/ Yes, we have been talking about Rainier too long. Let's build it.
/ Yes, to, the above statement.
No interchange. Maybe an underpass as a cross -town connector with bicycle /pedestrians
separated from cars.
/ Yes,, ;sho.uld have been done at least as a connector. We should be talking about a
southern crossing. Note: New development in downtown specific area and along River.
The Outlet Mall should not have been allowed without providing free access:. It should not
be expanded without it. Do not require a crossing. On /off on both'sides of freeway like at •,
Yolanda in Santa Rosa would relieve traffic:at Washington and McDowell.
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Under ass, es -- Rainier; over ass, .no,.
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Wants underpass with .bike lanes with no freeway connection.
® Yes, it is time to, stop talking; :about having Rainier as a feasible cross -town connector.
Various voting and polls indicate a "GO ".
® Yes, if it has been on the books for long time.
® Rainier will not do much. good when gas becomes. prohibitively expensive in the next 10
years.
® Does the analysis to date provide someone to pay for,Rain'ier?
® No, building a freeway overpass or underpass through one of the most beautiful river
locations is a mistake everyone will have to live with for a long time — maybe if the
location were moved I would support it.
® No, who pays? Who benefits?
li Corona is very underutilized at thi's time (little traffic). What would make Rainier be any
different?
® . there is no money for it.
Yes, we need to be realistic about transportation and Washington Street is over used
now as the main feeder.
® Yes, studies show,this is best. We cannot afford to ignore those costly studies.
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What will development, of Kenilworth area do to traffic?
�® No; however, I think I an on /off ramp there would be extrenhely beneficial.
4. MOBILITY — GENERAL COMMENTS
® Regarding congestion versus destruction caused by widening — the historical,
pedestrian .and esthetic;arnbiance contributes to mental and physical health with a
sense of history and 'place. It is essential to keep it. But'it makes no sense to add
more density of housing more ears!) to. the downtown and river area. Stop before
you destroy "it for all Petalumans and visitors. Do not destroy the ten sheds along
the River, as they are a historical museum, in their current existence. They are a
sense of history of muse and a handsome presence along the River. They are
the, view that makes the River special in that whole stretch. They are the special
view from McNear- Island that we will visit. They contribute the change of
consciousness needed daily for human well - being. Knowledge of their past keeps
us aware of ,our cultural context, Jericho dredge should stay, as is very interesting
visually and important in many ways. Many of us walk, to, see this part of the River
environment. Do not build a five. -story parking ,garage by the Fire Station. It is ugly
"thinking and will further' block the view of the ;Sonoma hills that makes Petaluma
Boulevard downtown special to citizens and visitors who come here for the hills -
the River - River industry in the historica'I.:sense and the ten warehouses that were
built for- River shipping and are well used now. Do :not take peoples homes on E
Street. Do not get rid. of Petaluma Coffee Company. Do not put the Fire Station on
Petaluma Boulevard between E and F Streets. That area is a historic part of
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Petaluma and a quiet neighborhood. Why let developers steal people's homes,
ambience and current livelihoods #o enrich developers Who have other options?
1 Leave the congestion. Think of other-suitable ways of transportation and cater to
them..Offer incentives to carpool, bike., walk or use public transit. Leave the streets
alone.
1. WATER 'RES'GURCES
INFO: Given 'a fixed supply of water from the Sonoma County :Water' Agency. The City is
pursuing, a recycled water program, conservation programs, and.. groundwater
opportunities -to address its needs.
QUESTION: WHAT IMPLICATIONS OR CONCERNS DO YOU ..HAVE W ITH ANY OF THE
ABOVE STRATEGIES?
9 We should strive to 'implement, recycled water to all homes for irrigation, not just parks
and golf ,courses.
Any new 'development should. pay for system efficiency improvements sufficient to
recapture those amounts of water that the new development wihl use. (Reference Ned
Orrett to Grayson James — "Avoided Costs" concept.)
D Support and encourage gray water reuse. I am plumbed now to run bath water to the
garden, but am told it is, illegal to do it.
1 To compensate the excessive runoff, due to concrete, paving and building, we should
-collect more rainwater.
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First of all,, it seems intelligent not to Ian on increasing the water,supply. Strategies for
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,g e've got of a finite resource., as well as for allowing for drought,
etc., are prudent and. appropriate. We can both enhance . our heritage, beauty and also
retain water resources 'by landscaping (public; ,re.sidential and commercial)' that use little
or no irrigation, and that retains moisture (by shading, etc). Large urban shade trees offer
one of my favorite Ways :to implement this. Once established, they do 'not 'require
irrigation, they reduce urban heat (reducing ;energy requirements), and they enhance the
feel of our community.
/ Our conservation program does not seem to be aggressive enough With rate structures,
landscaping audits, Commercial re -use, etc. We need to be constantly educating and
reminding ,users of our conservation programs.
1 Petaluma "the City" is going in the right direction. We need to set a. strong policy to
conserve water.
David ;Brower's CPR — conservation, preservation and restoration, fits, here. Gray water is
great for lawns, etc. Go for it.
The. premise of �a'fixed supply of water from SCWA is defective. As other towns along the
Highway 101 corridor continue to grow, all use rs. of water "will see ,heir allotment
decrease:.
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Yes, to above.
® Agree, to above.
Multi -level pricing of water use needs to_-be aggressive. The more you use, the costlier
the gallonage. Promote greatest reuse of'water,
/ Agree, to above.
D Change out water wasting fixtures on all commercial and residential locations. Start with
City Hall.
D Consider global warming and its possible effects in your planning.
ll� Do we have a reliable water supply as energy costs increase? What about conservation?
® Recycled water — gray water is ,great. Include costs for public education. Do this ASAP.
Conservations measures should be dramatically increased. Also, ASAP before identifying
new water source needs (amounts). If you find the water, building will increase to
accommodate it. Reduce demand first. Do not suck up groundwater and help people
understand ground and surface water relationships— inextricably linked.
® How about education so people know where there water comes from and that there is a
finite amount.
a. , WA TER (RES
INFO: Recent analysis of the .flood,plain, subsequent to the construction of the flood
reduction project in the Payran area and completion of the modeling analysis of
the watershed indicates that the floodplain will, in the future, be reduced in area.
Recognize that a portion of this land is not currently within the floodplain and is
therefore developable. The cost of improving the Petaluma River corridor with the
provision of parks, open space, increased flood capacity, and public access
amenities is out of reach of'the City's fiscal reality..
QUESTION: IS A LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD FACILITATE THE PROVISION
AND PERPETUAL (MAINTENANCE OF RIVER ORIENTED OPEN SPACE,
PUBLIC ACCESS AND ADEQUATE FLOOD STORAGE CAPACITY
ACCEPTABLE?
® We need to make access to the River a priority. This is one of the key features and
benefits of our City. We should strive to balance protecting the river access with
complementary development. The town of San Antonio, Texas has balanced recreation,
retail and residential with the River.
® Agree with above, except San Antonio River in town is completely concreted in. We have
a still - naturally ;function river /estuary in town for the most part (except the Army Corps
project area) and should strive to keep the natural functions and natural beauty for quality
of life of Petaluman"s, potential tourist money and the threatened and endangered and
other species that depend on a natural river system. Development in floodplains is being
stopped and avoided all across America. Why is Petaluma going backwards and
spending lots of money to do it? Lets learn from other communities and grow smartly.
Use current science and planning — not from 30 years ago. Plus this question is
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confusing and potentially leading — asking for an answer that encourages floodplais
development.
/ Having recreational access to the River as well as .facilities to support that, access should
be a priority in order to build appreciation for this natural resource.
/ Development is related to more than water. Areas around the River should be carefully
considered as part, of Petaluma's beautiful natural environment. Also, the effects of mall
development on the downtown are a concern. You cannot and should not reduce it do a
question of flood storage capacity.
1 Does the recent analysis of the loodplain which indicates that it will be reduced in areas,
consider contrasting factors which rnight actually' increase its size (e.g. global warming,
higher sea :level)? As we know, the cost to the community of inappropriate development
on the. floodplain is virtually inestimable. Parks. and open space along the River and. in the
floodplain do not threaten the City with catastrophic costs or less of homes in businesses
ever.
® Development, in the floodplain is not acceptable. Ball fields and other recreational
opportunities are acceptable.
P Question sounds like an invitation for commercial /residential growth in the floodplain. I
have never heard of a plan that is not an "apology' for growth that would .endanger our
floodplain, which is still being created. Pedestrian access to channels and River are
critical in all areas. Paths along these promote healthy lifestyles and minimize traffic.
Promote water conservation by using native: plants wherever possible in City
landscaping. Promote use of natives to replace lawns.
/ Concern about where we get our water from Eel River will not be diverting as much.
How can we support the additional population?
® Why is more information not published to the public to show that the $38 million flood
project will allow for development north and therefore more revenue forthe City?
k Parks and open` space are essential. The question, obviously, is how to pay for it. Though
some development will probably be necessary, other alternatives should be explored first.
They include use or park fees. Parcel tax (ok, not too popular).
1 If the level of development does take into consideration a means of allowing for seasonal
flooding in the area.
® Water pressure is a problem in some hillside areas. Particularly Paula Lane and Sunset.
The Fire Department puts that area at just, at necessary .flow for emergencies. Any
additional development will exacerbate the problems we already have.
Drainage `is. <also a problem throughout that area down to flooding of Marin Creek.
3. WATER RESOURCES
Current & Future XP -SVWMM Model Uses
INFO: As shown in the Presentation this morning, future uses include:
• Riparian implementation projects,
• Development Project Impact; Evaluation
• Storm Drainage Planning and Design
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Regional :Watershed Analysis
Water Quality Impact Analysis (NPDESII)
QUESTION: WITHIN THE PETALUMA WATERSHED, WHAT AREA(S) SHOULD BE THE
CITY'S NEXT HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF THE
CORPS AND THE DENMAN PROJECTS?
/ Protection of the floodplain north of downtown to ensure that our natural drainage is not
sacrificed for mediocre retail chains.
® Continued development and support of the waste water project south of town.
/ Use the,floodplain adjacent to the. Outlet Mall for sports fields, not development.
/ The floodplain is an excellent location for much needed playing fields, parks and
recreational opportunities!
/ Set backs with protected riparian areas.
/ Maintenance and restoration of the creeks (i.e., Jessie Creek). Under no circumstances
should a creek be relocated, moved or displaced.
/ In the west side of Petaluma, groundwater recharge areas — Paula Lane and Sunset
Drive, preserve as it borders other County lands with wells..
® Water pressure on Paula Lane and in immediate area is low and. will remain so. Please
be aware of this.
Preserve the riparian corridor along Petaluma River. No big factory outlet expansion
there.
/ Stores /commercial development in Factory Outlet areas should be allowed.
/ Let's daylight buried creeks! Restore Thompson Creek!
/ A healthy river is the heart'of a healthy community. Protect natural functions of floodplain
wetlands (absorb water, filter and. clean water-, recharge ground water). Implement parts
of Plans that increase public access to River; i.e. six mile long river walk that will be a
tourist draw and help economic development, while preserving natural features /resources
and preserving and enhancing. -the charm and quality of life in Petaluma.
4. WATER RESOURCES — GENERAL COMMENTS
/ What is the current status of our contract with SCWA? Do we have a guaranteed
allotment of water? How predictable is our water allotment?
/ Our conservation program seems to be just beginning. We need to enlighten all of our
water users.
1 Rohnert Park allowed more growth than it has water to support. Is there a clear simple
way to keep the public aware - of our water resources vs. "need" for water represented by
new business and housing (i.e., what is responsible growth versus water for Petaluma)?
/ The Russian and.. Eel River are in trouble and yet City Planners believe we can continue
to grow.. Water dictates sustainability and we ran out of sustainable water years ago.
There is only one viable alternative. No more growth.
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► Outlying areas with sensitive balance of environmental factors are also of great concern,
i.e., west ;side rural lands that relate to Marin Creek tributaries have significant areas for
groundwater recharge, and special topographic features for sustaining wetlands.
Preserve and protect for generation to come. Please listen to neighborhood concerns.
The SCWA does not appear to be very accountable.
/ Preserve groundwater recharge areas.
/ The General Plan should include ways for the community to access and utilize the river in
a recreational manner.: This could include fan aquatic center, open to the public use. This
will ;build "the community's appreciation for our natural resources.
► Water. pressure in the Paula Lane/West Street neighborhood is pathetic and will only
worsen with continued development in that area and as more: groundwater recharge
areas in. this neighborhood are paved over, flooding issues experienced by residents will
become acute.
► Let's modify the plumbing codes so homeowners can modify their pipes to collect gray .
water. Education'so that people know they can do it and learn how.
► How about a pedestrian bridge from the Foundry Wharf to McNear Peninsula (a
drawbridge,)?
► The Marin Creek flood problems from. Victory runoff is not addressed: Nor' other areas
Within Petaluma's proposed expansion area that increased runoff to Marin Creek,
why? Will this increase to flooding in County area and Stony Point to Petaluma River be
considered?
1. ECiDNOM111,CS
INFO: The City .Council identified three priorities for the new General .Plan, one, of which
is to achieve sustainable economic health and continuing current levels of.service.
Analysis has shown that expanding retail sales tax revenue, which presently goes
to neighboring cities, would' assist in the effort toward economic health Citizens
have indicated an interest'in expanding retail opportunities but do not appear to
overwhelmingly support; "b.ig, bones" or largei discount chains. Recently approved
projects will bring new shopping opportunities to Petaluma while several active
applications will provide more stores, if approved.
QUESTION; SHOULD THE NEW GENERAL PLAN, PROVIDE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES
FOR* DEVELOPING AN EXPANDED RETAIL BASE FOR PETALUMA, WHILE
IDENTIFYING SPECIFIC PARAMETERS, SUCH AS LIMITING BUILDING SIZE
OR THE SIZE OF A GIVEN PROJECT?
/ 'Goals should be set, absolutely, but they need to be reasonable, achievable and
sustainable. The goals. should be based on reasonable assessment of population growth,
achievable economic growth and sustainable development.
► Limit building size and focus on sustainable, ecologic products.- No big boxes or other
quality of wages downgrades that takes money away from Petaluma.
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Can Petaluma support all the proposed retail? Regarding the models used for retail
expansion, did they factor in Internet shopping? Which studies are used to address this
shift in retail models?
/ Are Corporate Headquarters a more economically profitable type of development for
Petaluma (considering the better jobs that would be generated)? If so, what can we do to
attract these Headquarters?
/ We need a Macy's here in Petaluma so people do not spend all their money in Santa
Rosa and San Rafael. We also need places for teens to go for entertainment on the
weekend. Business that caters to teens.
/ Goals for developing the retail ba_ se should perhaps, begin with renovation of aging
shopping centers. As they dry up, the enormous space they take up is wasted while
developers look toward the beautiful hills and outlying areas. Start with space that is
already retail and limit size:
/ Aren't current expansion plans about double the,, stores /businesses we have now? Yes,
we need to capture more retail dollars, but let us not overdo it and lose what we love
about this town. Use existing vacant lots in town first. This is state of the art planning.
Gobbling up open space and building in floodplains has stopped in many, many
communities across the country. Why are we moving backward? Petaluma was a leader
and an example in graduate planning classes of leadership with its UGB (determined to
be good for economic development). Shame on. us and our leaders if we continue to go
backward now and put, in big boxes or other chains that Will sap the economic life out of
the heart of Petaluma. 'Why should we be different than other towns that have
allowed /promoted such thoughtless and unsustainable development? Please do what is
environmentally, economically and socially right for the: community, not what is right for
out -of -town developers.
/ Yes, goals and objectives for expansions in our retail base should be intelligently and
rationally formulated to provide the diversity and flexibility that will allow sustainable
economic and social health over time. Such - objectives should consider whether the
owners and employees of businesses will live - in. Petaluma, whether they will earn enough
to live on their incomes without becoming a burden on City /County resources, and how
much of the businesses' incomes will be recirculated in Petaluma and Sonoma County,
versus outsourced to .global corporations.
/ Absolutely, incremental growth and anti-"'big box" please.
/ Limit building size. Promote independent businesses.
/ Sounds great. The goals should also include figuring out what people need here and
introducing those. kinds of businesses or encouraging them.
/ Ye.s, otherwise Petaluma will loose its charm.
/ Yes, but be tasteful,! Petaluma planners lack broad experience as to tasteful
development. Start, by educating themselves.
/ Limit building size. Preserve architectural distinctiveness of Petaluma. Insist on parking
facilities that; include canopy trees and landscaping. Mitigate traffic impact.
Yes, retail opportunities are long overdue. Everyone knows that. Responsible officials
• can recruit retailers that will combine to attract shoppers from other areas just like we
have been going to Novato, San Rafael, Santa Rosa and San Francisco to shop.
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Enhance, small businesses and restaurants downtown.
businesses, and food and other retailers in accessible
do not need a Wal -Mart.
2. ECONOMICS
City of Petaluma, California
Attract clothing, techno- orientatedO
shopping areas on east side. We
INFO: Reducing revenues, due to State funding reductions, and increasing costs of
services. (i.e.: Public Safety, Street Maintenance and Reconstruction, Park
Development and Maintenance, General Governing Services) may result in
reduction of existing service levels. In ' order to provide :desired or expected
services, the City must rely on more than just. property taxes to ensure a
sustainable economic balance.. General Plans can be a tool -to guiding
development in a manner to increase revenue potential.
QUESTION;: SHOULD ECONOMIC GROWTH BE TIED TO SPECIFIC GOALS SUCH AS:
• 'PROVIDING DIVERSITY' OF RETAIL PRODUCT' AVAILABILITY IN THE
PETALUMA AREA
• GROWTH. OF TOURISM AN_D /OR ECO- TOURISM OPPORTUNITIES
REDEVEL-O_PMENT OF AGING, LESS - PRODUCTIVE' SHOPPING CENTERS
• PROJECTED SALES TAX REVENUE FIGURES
/ Growth should pay for itself and be sustainable. Why allow building without covering all
its costs? Roads, flood control, parks, etc. Past expansion caused double classing in
schools-, gridlock and sewer plant overflow,: then'building moratoriums. We put in ,growth
control and obtained federal $$ to widen Washin, gton overcross[ing] and build ;Caulfield,
then built Petaluma back into its current problems. Show us a model that build's us out of
time.
/ Yes, we need to create an inviting place for people to come visit with diversity of retail
product on one hand and invest in park and recreation areas: for citizen5r and guests to
gather, celebrate .special occasions, play and relax. We have to. continue. connecting our
neighborhood with bike laws and have inviting places to walk.
/ Tourism can be a .future source of money. We are on the border of Carneros Wine
Region.-We have a wetlands ,bird. area. A.river for recreation. Potential hiking areas on
Sonoma Mountain. Important to maintain historical' character that differentiates Petaluma
from other areas.
1 Be careful not to create a bunch of low paying jobs when setting goals.
/ The Chamber of Commerce should have done this years ago. It is a continuous process.
Do not rush it b "utcreate these plans commensurate with quality of life.
/ Especially with the new wetlands area hopefully to become -a wildlife, s"anctuaiy.
Ecotourism is a sustainable, renewable, perpetual base for economic and community
vitality. Imagine a rim trail all around Petaluma, connected to the greater Bay trail.
Petaluma can be a nucleus for walkers and hikers from all over .California and the world
who visit here to rejuvenate in our natural splendors, much as travelers now go on
walking tours in 'Ireland, Scotland, England, etc.
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Yes tie rowth to specific goal's mentioned.
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® From 2005 to 2025, Petaluma is in a great position to create ecotourism opportunities.
With the new polishing wetlands on the east, side and documented abundance of wildlife -
birds, badgers, deer,_ etc. On the west side, people could be encourage to book to stay at
th;e Sheraton, visit wetlands forbirdwatching, shop in revitalized downtown and visit west
Petaluma for birdwatching, organic farm visits and true rural:. life experience all in one trip.
Golfers could golf as. well. Look at Petaluma's big picture of what each one has to offer.
More tourist money.
® Future growth is going to happen and should be done in strategic manner with goals to
protect what makes Petaluma unique — natural resources and historic, charming
downtown. Let's not make it "anywhere USA" as so many other communities our size
have done in the name of economic development. Studies show economic development
around natural resources (river, estuary) are sustainable over time, both for people and
wildlife, birds and fish. Also, new buildings should pay for themselves, including for new
.roads and damage to water quality, etc. Shopping centers are deadly and limit individual
options for small businesses; due to expensive rents. Also;, there are often vacancies.
They have no individuality and. spoil more esthetic and health giving environments. They
exacerbate low water tables and increase runoff. People come from Florida, Texas,
Chicago and New England to name a few places, for the quaint beauty of Petaluma as
expressed in the paintings of local artists. Yes, paintings of the reflections of the tin sheds
in the River south of D Street and north of D Street bridge, is a valuable attraction to
tourists, including scenes and walking tours of the Railroad tracks and the street side of
the River's tin sheds. Tourists and tours depend on those tin sheds and other old River
industry. They all shop here; so don't kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Stay firm on
all the historical preservation. Do not bargain our treasures (any of them) away to
development by obsolete thinking and taking what is not theirs our quality of life. Keep
tourism diversity. Focus on small businesses of unique or high quality contributions in
trade. Focus on sustainability and show and control growth. Why build a three story Fire
House while reduced fund's limit public safety? and why?
INFO: Continued development of employment opportunities 'contributes to maintaining a
jobs. and housing, balance in Petaluma (a goal of the existing General Plan).
QUESTION SHOULD BALANCING RESIDENTIAL GROWTH WITH EMPLOYMENT
GROWTH REMAIN A GOAL IN THE NEW PLAN?
® Yes, with affordable housing. No one needs those 3,000 -5,000 sq. ft. houses.
® Affordable housing is subsidized. We need 900 -1,300 sq. ft. market -rate housing.
® - Streamline the.approval process.
® What is the right balance? if we do not build jobs we create traffic. if we do not build
• housing we create traffic.
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/ What we. really need are small houses and shared living. Not everyone is a nuclear•
family.. We have plenty of four bedroom, two bath houses now so let's create. some other
opportunities like granny -unit rules being expanded so single people in: their twenties and
thirties can live somewhere without roommates.
/ First,, identify what the employment growth is, or should be. Employment growth needs to
be balanced between high, moderate, and lower paying jobs. if we rely too much on retail
leakage and retail expansion, we will be creating Lower paying jobs, so balance retail with
high tech, communications, self- employment, etc. Them identify residential growth
needs—it's a balance.
/ Sustainable design and alternative energy sources are essential to the. economics and
future viability of Petaluma, the region, state and... The General Plan must contain
language that encourage both of these, It could include .goals, or.. financial 'incentive for
photovoltaic and other alternative energy sources though it may not be feasible that all
projects are LEED ,(Leadership in Environmental and .Energy Design) certified. It may be
feasible to have projects adhere to or address the LEED standards.
/ S'omewhat – retail opportunities may be a better focus. A lot of people will still commute
to jobs in San Francisco and live here.
/ 1 like the concept of home- based businesses. Example: the Paula Lane 'neighborhood
has several child daycare, info technology marketing, medical services and educational
consulfing; etc.
4. ECONOMICS
INFO: The recently drafted Retail Leakage Study identified specific locations ideal for
expansion of retail opportunities. These sites included Kenilworth Junior
High /Fairgrounds Site and the property on N. McDowell at Rainier.
QUESTION: IF MAJOR PUBLIC ROADWAY AND RIVER CORRIDOR 'IMPROVEMENTS
WERE PART OF THE APPROVAL CONDITIONS, DO YOU' `SUPPORT
REDEVELOPMENT AND /OR DEVELOPMENT OF THESE SITES FOR RETAIL?
COMMENTS:
/ Yes, if 'the development pays for itself. The rezoning creates value. That increased value
should be shared with Petaluma (the Redevelopment Agency tax increase on vacant land
is proof), otherwise it is taken out of the community by spectators.
/ Kenilworth, yes. Rainier, not too sure.
® The Kenilworth site currently and historically has provided a significant amount of playing
fields for our children, accessible from both east side and west side. If Kenilworth is a
good site for opportunities to limit "retail leakage." by establishing outlets for goods.and
services that are wanted and needed by our residents, an alternative site for playing
fields _is in the central city area adjacent to the present Outlet Mall. This would be a good
site, for meeting important community need's in a floodplain appropriate manner. •
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Kenilworth is a poor high volume retail location— traffic in, and out— removal of play fields
and courts. Fairgrounds;are a very important part of Petaluma.
® Developing Kenilworth for retail would' add more stress to Highway 101 and East
Washington, which is already bad. The amount of new proposed retail development
concerns me. I do not want Petaluma to become like Rohnert Park. Perhaps we could
.better utilize existing retail space.
® Kenilworth is a better location for retail and mixed use than North McDowell, but how do
we obtain the necessary major public roadway One development cannot
pay: for it all, so setup. beneficial assessment districts and make the improvements to the
infrastructure before final approval of development; i.e., Lakeville Industrial Park.
® I am not favorable to do anything that would ,support a freeway over or underpass at
Rainier simply because that area is one of our City's treasures. It is a beautiful river area
with a bend in- the river and lots of Oaks. Isn't there a way to just use Corona or move the
overpass somewhere else? 1 would like more transportation choices to we can shop
downtown without always.driving.
® The loss of recreation must be mitigated if Kenilworth is developed. Fields, pool, gym —all
must be relocated in easily accessible areas to children on bikes and buses.
Yes, but let's agree to divert the retail from national, chains. We do not want to become
another slave to big box ,retailers that provide .low paying jobs and no local character. The
profits. are not reinvented in Petaluma but rather the corporate headquarters. We do not
want to become another Rohnert-
• KenilWO ha
is it possible to develo without sacrificing playing fields? - -a balance I would
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support. It is feasible to the freeway and central in location. How about redevelopment
within "Plaza North" on North McDowell. A lot of parking space there is always available.
5. ECONOMICS – GENERAL COMMENTS
® There is no such thing as a free lunch.: First rate of economics not -considered! Why not?
This is the third time .Petaluma has put itself into gridlock/financial disaster. Now once
again the solution is to build us out of these problems. How do you explain that
something has not worked in the past .(opposite facts) is now to?
® Do a, sensitivity analysis on a 20 -year depression starting 2010 based on an economic
model by H.S.. Dent.
® Development, of renewable resources (solar, wind, etc.) could save our City a lot of
moneyin the future. When considering new residential and commercial development, use
solar hot water and solar panels.
k Green building.
® Sustainable planning and building with plans for higher density affordable housing is a
great opportunity to create building designs that are sustainable and cutting edge in
terms of solar.-, ,renewable building materials; i.e., green. Will attract national media
coverage and Petaluma can be a leader. Never bad for economic.
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1 In Burlington, Vermont, 3:1' %0 of the City's energy comes from renewable sources. Ine
Portland it is 10 %. In Santa Monica, all public buildings use renewable °energy. What
about Petaluma?
1 In expanding retail base, I agree as it is. needed. Let's not do what everyone else has
done (Wal- Mart,. Food 4 Less, etc.). Let's do something that will attract people regionally,
not just let Petaluma residents buy their usual goods closer to home._ IKEA, or something
that draws people from a distance, 'Should be considered before ''the ,usual suspects."
Keep in mind "factory outlets" aren't much of "a draw —so many_ places. have them. it is
like osteoporosis -let's not just prevent bone loss, let's promote bone growthl
/ Yes, IKEA, yes Frys.
City should secure State Park Bond funding and other opportunity; designate staff as
grant writer, designate grant goals as City Manager goal.
® In Santa ]Monica 75% of the City's public works fleet runs on alternative fuel.
1. (LAND USE
The cif tens. of Petaluma. enacted a 20 -year .Urban Growth Boundary, set 4o expire in
20;18: With 'limited 'land available, increased pressure is applied on the need- to provide
for a reasonable growth pattern including expa.n`ding our retail base, providing;
opportunities for jobs and housing, and expanding our recreational, 'amenities 'to meet
current and future community needs. 'Please offer comments on the following issues;
INFO:: Petaluma residential inventory consists of over .8,0% detached single- family
dwellings: This housing stock is out of reach to many people now renting and /or
working, in Petaluma. Higher .densities to, encourage development of detached and
attached single- family dwellings on smaller lots, or townhomes, on selected 'infill
sites,, could provide opportunities for developing a wider range of housing prices
to meet the needs of'current workers and residents.
QUESTION: SHOULD THE CITY INCREASE DENSITIES ON VACANT' INFILL PARCELS
AND ON ,PARCELS FRONTING MAJOR ARTERIALS' FEEDING INTO THE
CITY TO ACCOMMODATE A MORE DIVERSE (PRICE AND TYP.E)' HOUSING
STOCK?
/ Consider first, gateways into the City existing neighborhoods and areas for new parks,
especially in northwest Petaluma where parks are nonexistent. Consider having Jessie
Lane /Petaluma Bo,ulevard' North vacant land, the: only flat piece of land left in that area,'
for ball fields rather than high density, housing: How nice to say 'if the land 'is not yours.
/ Apartment type living above retail' spaces is a great alternative for 'a' lot. of singles and
couples. Families want homes with 'yards. Single family (small) homes first and /or
duplexes with yards next:, Real affordable housing for first time homebuyers and the -:next
generation of Petalumans! A whole development would be best with restrictions for
residency as a requirement.
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Only in the downtown and CPSP area. Not every parcel needs to be mixed -use, high
density, or retail. Provide a balance and diversity of land use types. Feather the density
down to rural on all edges of the City (not just some). Another words, create higher
densities in the core and low densities on the edge. Extend the UGB from 2018 to 2025
to coincide with next, General Plan update. Implement and allow growth to occur within
framework and its own economic pace. Do not force growth and do not force high
densities on every parcel.
® Yes, we need more diverse housing. Studio apartments, co- housing, student housing,
etc. Not everyone is a four - bedroom family.
® Shoving more homes into smaller areas does not. necessarily make affordable. housing.
/' Infill means inside of developed, areas, not expansion to the UGB. Make gateways into
town attractive 'maintain large :trees on streets.
® If your idea of retail in box, stores, how is that °wage base going to make any housing
affordable?
® I am for infill; however-, if 'you keep expanding the boundaries it all starts to look like
sprawl.
® Yes, but not at the sacrifice of' single= family housing, consider two to four unit/acres as
well as multi and apartments.
1 No, densities are high: enough! Newer single family homes :are already on top of each
other. and we have already allowed "zipper lots" that do not allow you to have access on
4 one side of your house.
® This encourages piece meal annexation with inappropriate density without looking at
existing neighborhoods. 'We must also look at areas such as 'northwest Petaluma
(Petaluma Boulevard North) as,a gateway into .Petaluma and enhance the beauty of this
rural area rather than destroy it'with pockets of high- density projects.
® We are told higher residential density in a City's core. brings a safer, more economically
healthy town. We need this now in our competing regional cities (:Santa Rosa, etc.) are in
the process of doing this.
D Higher density has allowed new housing development that is nothing but cement
factories that have created echo chambers. Somehow we need more room for trees and
grass that help absorb the noise.
/ = State law only require we have a "physical development plan." It does not require growth.
We are no longer a small rural'. community. Growth is not inevitable if the public and
political will exist to restrain ;growth. The UGB passed to keep growth down. That is the
public;,will. Now the City'Council must enforce the public's desire. No more development.
Open space inside the City limits /UGB are irreplaceable and a tonic to the eye and the.
soul.
® Why so much' growth? Too much density does not add to the community well being.
® It appears -we are rushing forward in a very pro- growth development. It would appear
prudent to step back and see how the community reacts to all the new developments
doing on downtown. Has the traffic increased to a . point of gridlock? Are we able to fill all
the commercial space:? Our Outlet Mall is at Y2 capacity of possible tenants.
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® The purpose of the UGB. is to prevent; sprawl into rural areas. In order for this to be*
successful growth due.to population, and economic pressure needs- to occur inside the
UGB. That being said, we need to: maintain and expand open public space.
1► Absolutely,' "we need to cluster high- density homes near our regional transit centers or the
center of town for pedestrian/bike/public transit access.
® Keep the density low. People do not want to live :on top of one. another. I miss having an
actual backyard. Do not allow developers to put 30 ,houses on a lot where) there should
be 20. Young families need. space. Do not overdevelop.
® No densities'of existing neighborhoods should be considered.
®. Ok to higher densities. on vacant parcels n downtown and �nialready developed areas
With intermittent vacant, parcels. No to the. proposed "Hillside Residential, 2 -4 units /acre"
on west ridges, UGB areas and sensitive .Iands 'i.n the County. This would require sewage
disposal capacity by the City and ' thus annexations. No piece meal annexation to
accommodate develop_ ers wishes. Consider Benefits Assessments 'Districts to see if
communities who are impacted by proposed: changes want them. Especially in County
zoned west side neighborhood whose rights as property owners have, often been ignored.
Increased noise and Lighting impacts in sensitive west ,side rural neighborhoods (wildlife,
home -based businesses, senior citizens, etc.) would not be appropriate
/ No to any development, of west side ridges, even.low density on hillsides. We need to see
treetops and 'hillsides up there,, not rooflines
Yes, to high density along corridors and downtown. We need to go up. Grain towers
,already establish :a, high sight line of 7 stories. We do "not need to go that high.
Absolutely 'increase densities
Reward smaller construction. No one needs .those 3000 - 4000 monstrosities now building
above "Bodega at North Webster.
2. LAND USE
INFO: Over the last _ _ years, the City ,has successfully achieved a continuous Urban 11 Separator (greenbelt) along the eastern edge' of ,the City: This was , achieved as
large, relatively flat parcels' were proposed for'development. Using the de.veloper's
ability to transfer density to adjacent lands allowed the City to obtain title to the
Urban 'Separator ,without having to purchase the land. The City's western edge
,does not, for the, rriost
with much smallerpa ce and similar circumstances-.
ra chettes alreadta land develo ed, O n hilly
is oft
P - -y p pportunity to
achieve an Urban Separator, with continuous public ,access; is far more difficult
given the lower densities. that exist in these areas (typically o ne unit per 2 acres).-
The County areas, to the west and northwest of the City's Urban Growth Boundary
have also `subdivided to create 2 : fo 5 acre ranchettes.
Community Separator at �s western, edge,
the i d has strong supported creating a continuous Urban
' This does not. seem feasible with current O
development patterns and the opposition to any significant development potential.
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UESTION: HOW DO YOU SEE A, VISIBLE WESTERN EDGE BEING ESTABLISHED TO
DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN CITY AND COUNTY DEVELOPED AREAS?
/ Renewable resources (solar /wind, etc.) are very important to incorporate into all land use
and used in all current structures (.City Hall, Community Center, Police and Fire Station).
Also encourage this in new development, both commercial and residential.
® I fully support a greenbelt or open space on the western edge. This can be accomplished
with a string of parks or a perimeter tract around the City. The alternative to place high
value homes as our City boundary is not in the collective best interest.
® Regarding Western greenbelt, preserve the -hillside northwest of La Cresta so that a
green hillside is visible from downtown. In general', keep any currently empty hillsides that
are visible from downtown from being developed and use places not visible for
development of smaller homes like Victoria and homes of a more reasonable size.
III The Urban Separator does not need to be 300 feet wide everywhere on the west side.
Where necessary just a' path 10 to 15 feet wide can continue until the space opens up.
Suggests anywhere from ;the path width to 300 feet wide, to keep continuous.
® The Urban Growth Boundary on the, west side near "Paula. Lane needs to be preserved.
Also, the concept of "feathering" (less density as. development approaches the UGB)
needs to be reiterated and respected, not ignored as it was on Sunset. Keep the semi -
rural character of the Paula Lane neighborhood, and need the wishes of the residents,
rather than "hit and run" developers.
Preserve areas for abundant wildlife. on west side.
® What if future ranchetts and developments allow public access on their land creating a
green zone on so- called private land as part of the solution?
® Wildlife ends up dead on Petaluma Boulevard 'North and lies there till it rots.
D Not possible. Make a feathered transition coming into town. Petaluma Boulevard North
should have large parcel's fronting the Boulevard.
® Do what can be done even if small scale. Keep a path going if that is all that can be
delivered.
® UGB is, good for Petaluma, but it will need expansion before 2018.
1 There was a. term called "feathering" to allow development to plan as we approach the
City's edge. Just as important, is to have a greenbelt which allows a visual, scenic and
recreational buffer on our western edge.
® The "transfer of density" provision in the General Plan is in direct conflict with the
mandatory provision' to "reduce density as you approach the greenbelt." Provisions that
are in conflict violate' the mandatory requirement to be consistent. Transfer of density
rights should be deleted. We witnessed higher density in Cross Creek development,
which is a perfect example of a developer dictating terms in conflict with the General
Plan.
® Look at the areas that exist on the west side- -start there, then expand vision as to how to
create as contiguous of an Urban Separator on the west edge as possible. Important
consideration This is :something that seems to have been either completely ignored or
consciously disregarded, that is because of development moving westward with lack of
provision for open space and protection of wildlife species, the environmental sensitivity
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on the west side is heightened. Thus,. for the future, extra care to these issues needs to
be given. Also, the historic nature of.early rural agricultural communities on the west side,
some still intact,, should be recognized and protected. So for an Urban Separator area on
the .west side,, the additional protected benefits are wildlife. corridors, historic rural
agricultural communities and open space.
Put a 200' — 300" feet Urban Separator on Paula Lane fro Bodega Avenue to Schuman
Lane.
3. LAND USE
INFO: The ,Northwest. section of the City's Urban Growth Boundary,, served primarily by
Petaluma. Boulevard North, Skillman Lane .and Gossage Avenue: was included in
the 1,987 Urban Limit Line, and the 1998 Urban. Growth Boundary. In 1 -987 this area
was: designated Rural_ Residential, for the most part, and he in reserve by the
designation, of a Specific. Plan. The City Council, in directing `the preparation of a
new General Plan, indicated that no: Specific Plan areas were :to .'be included within
the Urban' Growth Boundary. Since 1987 the area has deve[oped slowly under
County developments standards. The new General Plan will ac9dress the feasibility
of this area for urbanization through the. three proposed Alternative scenarios,
which offer a variety of densities. Increasing rdensity along Petaluma Boulevard
North, where topography suits development potential, pr _oviding for, reducing that
density as topography increases or the land approaches. the western edge 'of the ,O
UGB may allow for development patterns to justify extension of utilities and City
services. The alternative is to leave the area-in the County, contract the UGB at
some point in the future, and request the to restrict development -to a 2-
acre minimum with no future availability of City services (orator, 'sewer,` Police,
Fire).
QUESTION: WHAT' IS YOUR VISION FOR THIS AREA (DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL,
GATEWAY CORRIDOR AMENITIES, ETC.)?
1 If you want to have a status quo in land use, yes, plan to increase. population growth to
75,000 +. You. need to use are shown in three plans. We tend to forget that Sonoma
County is going to have 250,000 - 300,000 people in .2040 and estimates 85,000 —
89,000 in Petaluma. Status Quo is not the direction we should plan for.
® Not true that all of the area on Gossage was included in the UGB. Gossage- itself is
outside and most of the south east side was also. This area 'is agricultural and should
stay there. Alternative suggestion is. to expand outside the UGB; Sphere of influence and
city expansion. areas. It is not noted that a vote of citizens will be required ,to increase the
UGB.
® Do not plan to expand beyond the existing U,GB. The expansion, in the northwest area is
not the appropriate location to accommodate future growth.
® I agree with the above statement. 'Why do we need urban expansion in the northwest e
area and south of Frates? Let's, not become another San Jose: My family and I moved to
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Petaluma in 1975 and enjoyed the fact that the City had open space on four sides. The
City needs expansion in parks and open space, not more urban development.
® Mixed use and higher densities for Petaluma Boulevard South and North and Magnolia,
etc.
® Preserving the farmland around the City is vital to preserving the agricultural tourism,
which brings money to Petaluma.
® The City can provide services — sewer and water without increasing density. The
Boulevard is a gateway and any development should include scenic corridors.
® Vision of a beautiful, gateway into Petaluma via Petaluma Boulevard North enhancing it
with bike paths and walkways, keeping density congruent with existing neighborhoods, to
keep the feel and look of the historical rural /farms.
I feel that the area in question should be developed on !a limited basis to maintain the
lower density of building and traffic.
® Sensitivity to scenic resource zoning; i.e., per County here, is important though this
development (City) locked area should be considered for incorporation and
density /services changes.
® The Plan's stipulation for feathering to the UGB must be followed — meaning no
development should be approved for higher density a.nd any housing that exists further
away from 'the UGB. For example the development proposed for Paula Lane has
significantly higher density than many of the yards /houses on the other side of Paula,
• farther from the UGB -- the same for Jessie Lane.
® Any annexation of County land must include consideration of those who currently live in
the county. Some proposals would be difficult to fully implement without the agreement
by County residents to be annexed also, which `many do not want.
/ Hillside land use creates challenges and increases problems in some areas with water
pressure.
® Animal habitats (badgers, deer, birds) should not - be disturbed.
® As with the destruction of the "feel" of Petaluma by widening downtown street, (which I
hope does not happen.), he
that are near the UGB on the County line have a
distinctively rural feel (walk Paula Lane at night, see Jessie lane). People who choose to
live there specifically choose snot to live in or near a development. People who plan and
profit from the developments do not live where they are directly affecting the quality of life
of those who d'o, live and work at home there.
® The va ue. Neighborhood meetings. General Plan Ambassadors, I can act as conduit for
input in my Sphere of Influence. People who know I am an ambassador would be able to
funnel their written comments /questions through others or me for meetings.
Neighborhood walking paths - bike path enhancement. Turtle Creek — great ideas for a
development -- paths, park, bridge, winding streets, landscaping and frontage wall. With
traffic enhancement we need beautification. Pretty good on Washington and McDowell —
we can do better.. City encourages remodel and enhancing existing, housing for homes in
need of repair /beautification. Lower permit fees. Tax rebate — recouped on increase in
resale values and taxes.
® One ,thing that stands out to me on Petaluma Boulevard North is a beautiful tree canopies
thoroughfare that is 'absurdly endangering to both pedestrians and bikers and to hectic for
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people in cars to enjoy. There are a variety of ways to calm auto traffic and to mako
bike /pedestrian travel safe and inviting. These measures should be part of any
development affecting this corridor.
Urbanization of the west and northwest areas of Petaluma would. meet significant
environmental constraints: Preservation of protection of west side lands is paramount to
those of us who live in these areas.
1) Contract the UGB on Paula Lane form Bodega to west to Paula Lane .itself. 'Maintain
the County ,residential, density of AR -2, one house per two acres. This is a rural area.
Continue the UGB' on Paula Lane as Paula Lane from West Street to Schuman Lane.
This provides consistency and clarity to developers that high - density housing
proposals are NOT appropriate in this area and infrastructure challenges would be
g quality , y ih current resident ualit of 'life and safet mpacted.
2) Preserve and i
significant wit
enhance open space and wildlife corridors on west; side, especially
Paula Lane. We as a community will be seeking a Historic District designation for the
County zoned rural agricultural lands from Bodega to Schuman.
1 Developers may want to sniff out any vacant land not developed on the west and
northwest side and snake their case to pave, over beautiful rural areas. This is NOT the
vision of people who live on west and northwest sides.
D Contract UGB to Paula Lane — Bodega to Schuman!!
4. LAND USE — GENERAL COMMENTS
Extend UGB from 2018 to 2025 to coincide with the next General Plan update.
® Take: de
firiition of "mixed use" and expand; i.e., mixed use, high density (downtown)
(CPSP); mixed use, vertical, moderate density (freeway frontage) (Kenilworth); mixed
use, horizontal, moderate to low density (industrial and retail centers); mixed use,
residential centers, low density.
® Meet ABAG population projections without expanding UGB and with densities that start
high at the; urban core and feather to rural at the edge (all edges) of the City, including
east, northeast and southeast side of town.
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Encourage neighborhood retail that has 3600 residential around center to at least'/ mile
and more. Do - not propose or encourage neighborhood retail on major roadways.
The agriculture in the boundary of Petaluma does not appear to be considered. I have left
you a copy of farm trails map showing the family, farms around Petaluma. If supporting
agriculture is a General Plan goal, why do you show these acres as a proposed
expansion area?
Consider requiring a six -foot by eight -foot sto yboard and story pokes for all housing
developments. The board should be readable by viewing from a parked car.. The City of
SeaTac, Washington requires such notification even for single homes on a flag lot.
More diverse housing including shared living and' co- housing developments, as well as,
relaxed second unit/granny unit standards to there could be more small living units for
someone to live alone or as a couple. O
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Land use looked at as a whole with pedestrian and bike access built in existing areas
linked together with paths. For example, so I can walk from the Foundry Wharf to Whole
Foods without going through glass- strewn lots„ old concrete chunks, busy streets and
freaky areas.
® Regarding the Environmental Review, please write into the General Plan an, intention to
perform complete reviews under CEQA, with particular emphasis on adequate
documentation of special animals. and plants. We do not want to lose any more in
Petaluma due to incomplete information in the California National Diversity Database. It is
not complete if this is a reference you are using for the revised General Plan
environmental information.
® Ball fields should be developed in the floodplain.
® Preserve west side open space. Limit development and avoid" further annexation.
/ Do not pack us in like sardines.
D Want ball fields and park area on Jessie Lane.. Do not forget the children.
® Preserve existing west side open space. Add traffic - calming .measures on Paula Lane to
reduce speeding hazards created by those taking Paula Lane as a shortcut between
Bodega and Magnolia.
® No. more zipper lots in Petaluma. Just say no.
® There are no ball field. in west Petaluma and losing some at Kenilworth. If we do not get
some parks in the Payran Reach Area to Corona, where can 'it :.go?
�® We cannot build into fiscal health.
k Development is inevitable. Our children will need housing. Unused property is a fire
hazard and money out the door.
If we are going to develop the land around the river, it cannot be all industrial. We need to
provide the community with access to the river so that it 'is the entire City that will be
benefiting from this natural resource. Plans for land use should include a recreational
aquatic center.
® Fairgrounds must be designated as "park," as it is perfect for a west side sport complex,
and is especially good since it is City owned.
® Bike/Walking paths along creeks was brilliant. Newer developments have been pretty
good,.about addressing this. Great paths will: 1) give greater pedestrian safety, 2) lowers
pedestrian /bike use of streets, 3) raises quality of life, 4) raises property values.
Europeans recognize this as, in Germany it is possible to cross the countryside on bike
paths mostly away from streets. Pathways go through neighborhoods between homes
and off streets.
® How about land use that requires ,a campus community development to include a ball
field which would be good for employee lunch uses available for city /youth evening and
weekend use? Parking would already be available and use at opposite peak times.
Development could use park fee on their site. Development could maintain.
® City needs west side ,ports field complex.
k City needs to develop more ball fields. Currently is critically short of this need.
�® Focus on local neighbor retail /service needs so that people could work from home and
reduce auto trips.
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/ More local parks for community needed. The ones we have need more maintenance.
/ More recreational facilities on west side.
® Adults need ball fields on west side. Use floodplain areas for open
space /recreation /parks, meeting . many goals give floodplains back to the river (reducing
flooding and flood - related costs; improving health and function of `the river) and providing
much - needed west side ball fields, etc.
® More discussion from. presenters to explain options A, B, and C in „detail. I ,would favor C
which emphasizes neighborhood community, allowing some commercial in residential
areas so less driving is necessary. Less population growth.
® Do not count school fields as "park "; school fields are less and less available to the
community; Casa closed and others not maintained. Schools do not fill park needs. We
need access to the Petaluma River on both sides throughout the City.
The five story- parking garage near the Fire Department is a City uglification. no matter
what design. The prior building torn down and near there was suppo ed to upgrade
Petaluma Boulevard appearance and the City image. What a horrible message to
congest .and block the views from that area which was nostalgia and now there is an
opportunity to respect the River area. and downtown by keeping views, access, dignity
and smaller scale. The Turning Basin's new buildings are a heart breaking assault on the
public views from Petaluma Boulevard' and the Turning Basin: We must- respect our one
and only River; even if it is not Yosemite Falls and clear. It is a treasure and has been
assaulted visually. Turn it around and keep it open and do not degrade it by
develooprnent-- overscale view and access blocking. That is not the river and is human
lack of comprehension. It draws people and. feeds the soul. In Burlington, Vermont,
pesticides are not allowed in parks, lands and waterways. Let's do that here too.
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