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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAgenda Bill 6.A-Attch02 09/20/2004J1.. -.Ae Planning Commission Minutes - May 11, 2004 p z tr. City of Petaluma, Cahforiaia City `Couneil Chambers L ' ,4,` City Hall - 11 English Street Petal uma, "CA =94952 Telephone 707 /778 -4301 / Fak 707/778 =4498 E -Mail. �Slanriin� (u;ci.petalum�i:c'�.iis Web Page h ttp /i����w.ei.pe ta1[lna.e<t.us i 2 Planning Cb'rnrn iss on 'Minutes EXCERPT 3 Ma 1:1; .2004 - 7°0.0 P, 4 5 Commissioners: Present: `Asselineier; Barrett,,Dargie *, McAllister, Rose, von Raesfeld 6 Absent: Harris 7 * Chair 8 ATTACHMENT 2 9 10 1`1 12 13 Staff: George White, As Director, Cotnmunity.Development Jane Thomson Code.Enforceinerit Officer Jayni Allsep, Project Planner Anne'Windsor, Admin istrat ve Secretary 14 15 Public hearing began.at 7:15 p.m. . 16 17 PUBLIC HEARING : 18 NEW B,US'INESS: 19 20 II. RIVERVIEW SUBDIVS1ON, McNear.Avenue.at,A ission. Drive 21 AP No. :: 019= 210 -017, 019, 027,. 030, 031, 037 22 File: 03 -PRZ -018:7 23 Planner: JayniAllsep, 24 2 -5 Applicant is requesting. a _recommendation to the City Council of a to 1`). 26 proposal prezone the property at McNear -Avenue' near Mission Drive totaling 22:9 acres to Planned Unit 27 Development ,(PiJD)'; 2) to annex the _prezoned property to the City of::Petaluma and 3) to, 28 subdivide 1 17.11 -acre portion of the property into 63 residentral`.lots. 29 30 Jayni Allsep presented the staff report . 31 32 Bruce Aspmal, Planning Consultant: Introduced_ the ,project team showed the location of 33 the project and, reviewed the zoning for the parcels: 34 35 36 Justin Hansen, ,Architect•:; Presented the site plan' and gave a brief overview of the architecture for the proj'eci. ATTACHMENT 2 Planning Commission Minutes - May 11, 2 1. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1.1 12 13 14 15 1.6' 17 18 1,9 20. 21 22 23 24 25. 26 27 . 28. 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 Bonnie. Diefendorf, Carlenzoli & Associates: Conditions .12 and 13: want. these elimnated'n favor of engineering condition 44. Condition 59'— want a.natural- pedestrian trail 'and not .a paved bike path as suggested by the Bike Committee.. Re condition. would provide a; bike path/water main. easement between lots 35 and 36; instead of a path through th ,open. space (as suggested in Condition.59). Bruce ©operat p •vely througho t Ment i oned the proj th at Cobblestone and the Church have: .- °worked very ect._ Asked the commission to recommend approval .to the City Council. Public h'earing,ogened: Richard Parker, Member of the St. John's Lutheran Church: Spoke `in„ favor 'of the project. overflow of onds would be av o p p osed oro th`e pond bein v under underground - or fence ing the Rand Y ponds, � p g g. so it i not dangerous for children. Do not want illegal access to Rovina, Lane, Fire• Department may use as access'. Do not want Rovina Lanei to be used as access for construction — dust and dirt will come. directly to our property due to prevailing winds. Have concerns about road_ conditions beyond my driveway on Rovina Lane. David Amendsen, St. John's Lutheran Church: In favor of the project. C, I 0 • Dave Devoto Believe it's a good. project, welcome it to the neighborhood. Problems with frequency from the radio station — can be overcome. Have concerns .about the ponds. Randy`Haydon: Due to the radio station there is interference' with tvs,.vcrs, dvd players, .etc. Ira Bennett:. Aware of the radio programming issues. —look for technological issues to resolving the problems and there will be full d sclosureto future residents. David Amendsen: Had interference during church sermons' - have resolved'the problem. Public hearing; dosed. Greg Herd, Carle nzoli:.Responded to public comment "regarding the ponds. For the Host: part the ponds will.'be dry after the first 'flush ". This flush 'carries debris, etc. off they streets and into the ponds to treat the water. Is not'our intent, to use Rovina. Way as access to the site. Addressed additional access issues and public improvements being put in by Cobblestone. Discussed the trees needed to be removed for the project. 45 46 Bruce Aspinalh Rovina Way will not be used for construction traffic.; during 47 'construction fhere will be a water truck on the site at all times for dust control. • 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 12 13 14 15• 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 • 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 .3 5' 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 0 46 47 Planning: Commission Minutes - May .11, 2004 Commissioner McAllister: Asked.if "street standards. can be narrower to preserve some of the trees on the site. Craig. Spaulding: If adjustments can `be�,made we °will consider making changes. Issues - Identified: 0 Number of Trees. removed Rear yard setbacks Open space is not',chi�ld friendly Streets at 1:5 %o slope from sloped driveways — w be a challenge for homeowners ■ Ponds — `want o make:.sure water does -riot accumulate and;,;become dangerous — ineorporate as a 1'andscape feature. • Young parcel is; a missing piece . how will those.home vela_ te'to the subdivision • No play area for. children • Default zoning for the `Church in the PUD; • Density Commission 'comments: TI ees: Commissioner McAllister,; Believe it's, difficult to mitigate the large oaks that are being removed from the site. Want it to be a priority to save some: of the. large oaks. On the lower area, tree #26; (lot l.6), possibly curve Mission Street-around, this "tree and tree #35, a, walnut. i On the, upper area, — respect the: -large trees as a paranieter #'66; #65 — would require some reloting, 4.60. 62,,.63, #11:8, #119; Could make a meaningful connection with a pedestrian trail. to.the .other development. 'Also 486: and 987. Trees 109' and 116 — is it possilile to work the, roads around some of the tree clusters? Cluster on lots 48, 49 and 50 — 'a number of these are saved, however, many in. good .condition are to be removed as well. Consider fewer lots or.smaller lots to'preserve some of the trees —they will be a.community asset Commissioner Barrett: In .general I concur with Commissioner McAllister. Other than lining up Mission Drive, possibl line up the - roadways tc preserve trees to add character and provide a traffic, calmhg :measure. Agree with Commissioner McAllister regarding the cluster of trees: No play. ar for eh ldren ®pen'space U not child friendly . I , Commissioner McAllister! If some of the trees can be preserved, there would be an opportunity, for some Play structures for children underlhe trees. Commissioner Barrett: Save the trees near Mission Drive, and Rovina could be an opportunityl'for a round' =about and a park'. 3 Planning Commission Minutes May 11, 2004 i 1 Commissioner Asslemelen Concur with what has' been said — just a small play area 2 would be an amenity to the site. 3 4 Chair Darg:ie: l: am in' agreement that some small. park area would. be'beneficial to the 5 site. The ponds seem to serve a ' :purpose only once a year — Is there a way this can 'be. an 6 open space area for kids to play? 7 8 Consensus: `If'ponds are created they must be ,safe and a child friendly open space is 9 needed. 10 11 Rear Set -baek; 12 13 Commissioner McAllister: Want ed 'to'verifyl5- ft:rearsetback is it only backing up to 14 open space? Would not want 15 -ft. rear ,yard to back up to another house with :1'5 -ft; rear 15 set =back. 16. 17 Usable back yards with 2 to I slope: 1.8 19 Commissioner - McAllister: Back yard with such a slope is not really .usable Lots 37 20 through 42.— use the upper space as open space: area with a landscape buffer "`instead of 21 fencing. 22 23 Commissioner _Barrett: Agree. with Commissioner McAllister. Want -,fencing included in 24 SPARC submittal. Also the'fencing associated with the church as well. 25 26. Commissioner von Raesfeld: Lots 1, 3 5 and 7 = probably have 15 -ft. back yards.— need 27 to look closer .at those lots. There are inconsistencies between intent of conditions and 28 the PUD guidelines. 29 30 Street slopes /driveway slopes: 31 32 Commissioner Rose: If there were minor realignments to preserve some trees; ;it may 33 mitigate some of the slopes and d_ riveways. 34 35 Discuss regarding the name change ofRovina Lane: 36 37 'Commissioner Barrett: S'uggestsignage on Petaluma Boulevard South instead of: a name 38 change.. 39 40 Commissioner Asselmeier: Agree that signage would take care of the problem. 41 42 Committee consensus: Trail connecting to Country Club. will be a rural trail. 43 44 Commissioner von Raesfeld: Find better language for Condition 10 possibly to be 45 accepted at the time of public improvement acceptance. 46 4 J 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 _ 1 � 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 • I Planning Commission Minutes - May 1-1, ;2004 Commissioner Barrett: Made a comment regarding the zoning regulation language in the PUD guidelines on the church property. Ira Bennett: Most part of'designing the site is the circulation. We can work without ponds, can save some trees on the upper portion and possibly put in. more lots. There is very little we' can do about the Young parcel., Regarding the rear lots that have slopes we would be open to creating some open ispace.' Bonnie Diefendorf: Put in 15 -ft setback: as a minimum standard. ,Many rear yards have more than a 15 -ft' setback.. :Lots 40 =47, :are fill slopes rather than cut slopes to have a usable rear yard. Referred to tree 2'6 on the lower area can possibly save it. Commissioner McAllister: MigU - still be an issue of si'd'ewalk in the tree canopy. Want staff to reconsider Z8 °ft. street and sidewalk on both sides of the street -' could be a reasonable tradeoff to preservermore treesand reduce thegrading. Craig Spaulding: Can adjust the street width, 'however, do not suggest that we take out sidewalks. M /S' Barrett /McAllister to continue to June 8, 2004 6- 0,'H'arris absent Public hearing ended at ; 10,:30 S. \PC- Planning Commissionwinutes \P,C minu'tes 041051' 1;04'.doc 5