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February 11,1991
Vol. 26, Page 155
1 MINUTES OF A REGUI,AIZ AIDJOURNED MEETING
2 PETAI:IJIVIA CITY COUNCIL
3 MONDAY, F'E~RUAR~' 11, 1991
4 ROLL CALL - 7:00 p.m.
5 PRESENT: Read, Davis, Woolsey, Vices Mayor Cavanagh, Mayor Hilligoss,
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Bill Brotman, 2009 Willow Drive,• regarding- the resolution supporting the troops in the
Persian Gulf, he hoped' the newspapers°~w,ould give this resolution as much coverage as
they did `the earli`er~ resolution 'so -when copies of the local papers are sent to the
troops, they will see there is unanimous local support for their efforts.
Jan- Klebe,~ the Petaluma Peace Club received a letter: from,a person in the Middle
East area who wanted to come home., She'also'said. we can support our troops from
the last war right. here and now.
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COUNCIL. COMMENTS
Michael Davis, asked_~~that~ Bay_ Vision 2020. be .discussed by the Council soon. The
City Manager advised't, is .scheduled for February ~19.
Vice Mayor Jack Cavanagh .noted ;the .Mayors and Councilmen will hear a
presentation. on Bay Vision 2020 at their March 13 .meeting.
Lynn Woolsey, handed brochures regarding a hazardous materials workshop to the
City Manager suggesting that at least one member of staff should attend March 19-20,
and/or Apri130-May 1.
MINUTES
The February 4 ;minutes-were a~proeed as amended:
Page 150, Lme 30 change "Principal Planner Kurt Yeiter" to Councilmember Lynn
Woolsey.
Page 151, Line 26 add, ','Hours of operation will be regular."
Page 152, Line 35 add, "The presentation of the project`took 45 minutes."
RESO.91-39 NCS
SUPPORTING TROOPS IN PERSIAN GUL]E
Resolution 9.1-39 NCS supporting the United States Armed Troops in the Persian
Gulf. Introduced. by Lynn Woolsey; seconded by Michael Davis.
AYES: Read, Davis,.. Woolsey, Sobel; Nelson
Vice Mayor Cavanagh, Mayor Hilligoss
.NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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1 RESO., 91-40 NCS
2 SUPPORTING 5E-169 T® REPEAL ('nITiVTY Rnn
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Resolution 9-1-40 NCS supporfing'State Senate, Bill 169 to repeal the_authority;granted
in SB-2557 (1990 Statutes) for counties to charge local governments a "Booking Fee"'
and administrative expenses ,for the collection; of property taxes: Vice Mayor
Cavanagh suggested. the City also take a stand on State Senate Bill 203'. which would:
expand on the County's ability to charge cities., . ][ntroduced by IVlichael Davis;
seconded. by Brian Sobel., ~ ~ ~ ~ - , ~ •
AYES: Read;. Davis; Woolsey; Sobel;, Nelson
Vice 1Vlayor Cavanagh;. Mayor I:Iilligoss ` ~ '
NOES: None
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15 The City Council began the hearings on February 4 and continued.;them_ t'o. this date. -
16 The following iterris;are before.the.Couneil.'for'consid'e:ration:: , ~ ~ ~ '
17 A. Resolution approving CEQA'findings~ ~ ~, :.;: '
is. B. Resolution °approving Mtigation,Monitoring, Program ~ t- ~ • ' - ~ •
19 C. Resolution approving General Plan Amendmena to Special CornmerciaT
20 D. Introduce Ordinance upholding appeal of Pl:anningx Commission denial of
21 prezonng
22 E. Resolutionapproving PCD Master Plan Program.. .-:
23 F. Resolution authorizing commencement of request for Annexation of 24.3 acres
24 Speakers were:
25 Ione -V`ogensen, 1755 Petaluma Blvd. North -opposed for- reasons .of traffic and
26 possible flooding.
27 Harold Moorhead, 139 Westridge .Dr'ive - supp.orts;; knows. the Chelsea, outlet in
28 Flemington,, N. ew Jersey, has had positive results for the community:, ,Suggest
29 developing an arrangement to•transport shoppers downtown--from factory outlet.
3o Ellen .Moorhead, 139' Westridge Drive - ,supports,. the Flemington, New Jersey,, area is
31 an.historic area that .has been enhanced by he Chelsea project: ~~
32 Fred Bauer, 7765 Valley :Ford Road -opposes. for rE;asons' of traffic and we do -not
33 .need it. You can~`make statistics say anything you want them to-say.
3a Nancy: Chien-Er-iksen, P. O: 'Box 75033'5 -opposes;. feels there are Alabama, factory
35 outlets that:are not doingFwell. She went. to Vacaville (not developed'by Chelsea) and
36 questioned the cost savings of shopping there. Sle asked if the .City can :control what
37 stores go in there.
38 Bill Roop, 523-1/2 Webster, partner of Kathryn Flynn -there 'is. no copy 'of the
39 archaeological report on file at Sonoma State University nor at tle, local library. The
4o EIR. is not complete until that document is submitted. You cannot evaluate vernal
41 pools in the °middle of a thought.
42 Delos; :Smith, 1015 McNear Avenue -supports, we need an economic boost here.
a3 There. are: many benefits to be derived.
44 Pat White, 3196 Petaluma Blvd. North -you are putting. ~a parking lot where it floods:.
45 In order~to get out.you will have to go to `penny's. Both ends of Petaluma,Blvd. North
46 flo.ode.d. Is .concerned about traffic.. A lot of water is used'' in building. construction
47 and ~we are: i~n~ a drought:
February 11, 1991 Vol. 26, Page 157
1 Linda Kreuter, 73 Aloha Court -opposes, worked on the General Plan and the
2 General .Plan comments on this area having an open vista. This does not, fit with the
3 General .Plan language: The parents of Cinnabar School children are concerned
4 about the safety of their children.
5 Norm Wallen, 1 Coady Court -opposes. You have heard a range of concerns. Has
6 heard that some downtown merchants are opposed.
7 William Brotrnan,.2009 Willow Drive -supports. Reviewed the growth of Petaluma
8 since 1969; the growth management system and the U. S, Supreme Court support of it;
9 the General Fund reserves that existed prior to Proposition 13 in 1978 and the lack of
to reserves at this time because of prohibition from increasing taxes; Rainier having been
11 built as wide as it is for across-town connection having nothing to do with Chelsea but
12 rather having to do with the hospital moving to its currentlocation; the downtown said
13 they would to better without parking meters, so they were removed; the downtown
14 said they would do better with. additional parking, so the, parking garage and A Street
is lot were built. We have to get jobs for persons. coming out of school who do not
16 choose to have a career requiring a college degree. This would increase the
1~ employment opportunities in town. If there are valid concerns they should be looked
18 at.
19 Chris Christensen, 109 Rocca. Drive -opposes because he .does not want his tax dollars
20 being spent as a result of the project nor does he want assessments and bond issues
21 floated.
22 The City Manager advised him the project. is paying for its impacts. He
23 also noted that taxes cannot be raised due to Proposition 13. The flood
24 fix and the Rainier cross-town connection have been in the planning
25 process long before Chelsea was heard from. At this time the City has
26 set aside $30 Millions for the Rainier crossing and Flood Fix. These
27 projects will be'built whether or not Chelsea builds the outlets. In the
28 aggregate, there~~is an impact from any building in town.
29 Phil Joerger, 700 Fair Avenue -opposes because of potential .flooding.. The flood
3o mitigation should be completed first. There are many other good locations for this
31 type of business. He has nothing against the developers and property owner. Take a
32 good look at the Sonoma County Water Agency Study.
33 Joe Manthey, 22 Laurel Avenue -opposes. Works for Simi Winery on weekends.
34 Says tour buses bring. retired people who have already purchased everything they
35 need. They do not spend much money. If you are looking. for wine drinkers to spend
36 money at outlets, that won't happen. They shop at more exclusive boutiques. How
37 ~ many malls are there in the wine country? None.
38 Lionel Gambill, 300 Ryan Ranch Road,' Sebastopol -opposes for reasons of adverse
39 effects to air quality from widening LI. S. Highway ;101. to 6 lanes. Said there is a
4o recent judicial decision that would preclude highway widening. The EIR should have
41 taken the anticipated. number of cars -and figured the amount of emissions. The
42 automobile emissions have caused global warming which has caused the drought.
43 Annual ~ carbon monoxide emissions from .automobiles equal the weight of each
44 vehicle. Carbon dioxide emissions equals 19 pounds ,per gallon of fuel consumed.
45 Steps need to be taken to cut down on the things we are doing for global warming
4s including trees being. cut down. Air quality section of EIR needs to be rewritten.
47 Gre Waddell 1925 Post Alle S~"~amm~ ~ consultant for develo er resented
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1 Maxine Durney, 19$~ Ely Road -opposes. She is concerned about the oaks. and. wants
2 them.to be saved. Wait until the Coastal Conservancy study'is done, the.~.Army Corps
3 ,study is done, the 'Denman.Flats study is reviewed 'the '"Sonoma County Water Agency
4 plan is reviewed. This is too-fast to accept what Chelsea'is offering,
5 Patricia Hararnati~ .5.05 '7th 'Street - -opposes. We will be left to .deal with.. the
6 consequences of empty stores," I:ook at the Gotden.Eagle and Washington :Square.
7 Shopping lo_ re brings the burning of ..fossil fuel. This is open. space versus dollars: Do
8 we need to pave over and destroy to build.. retail? " Wi't;h the. Middle East: confli'ct,: we
9 should look at a future where oil consumption declines.
io Peter Rodda, 23 1Vleadowglen Drive -opposes due to i:he location .and the amount of
11 vaeant~ .retail space. We .need to revivify. There shou..ld be completion of a.
12 comprehensive river .pl'an. first. ~1Ue should emphasize energy. conservation, not bring
13 people from great distances. .
14 Vincenza Scarpaci, 23 Meadowglen 'Drive - "opposes. D. oesn't feel 'the City. has
15 examined the alternatives' to this project,. Last June voters approved a proposition to
16 increase: gasoline tax for rapid transit, Then the County voters voted'for a.tax for open
1~ space. I would be willing to raise taxes 'to fill the gap between expenses and income.
18 Don't throw `it -away for instant gratification for money.
19 Vince La '
ndof, 12 Cordeha Drive- - opposes..Feels this is a forgone conclusion. This is
20 m the wrong place at the wrong time. Suggested those persons who are in support of
21 this hve 'through a. winter in the Payran area to see how it feels to fear another flood.
22 These are going to be low paying jobs, not high enough to pay to purchase :homes
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24 Recess:9;Q5 to 9;:1'5 p.m.
25 Gerry.P,arilla, 1043 Lakeville Circle -supports. Regarding tours, people telephone the
26 Quality Inn asking: whether or not, the factory outle.ts~ ae open for business-. People
27 combine business with pleasure and spend long weekends in the :are,a. They go whale
2s watching at Bodega, go `wine tasting and look foi .other means to, spend their, time. At
29 a recent job fair,'600 people showed up asking for work;in Petaluma.
30 Helen Loorya, 5 Astoria Circle =supports.. Some :concerns are valid but they re not
31 insurmountable.
32 &enee Uhlg, 370 Bailey :Avenue .- opposes. opposed Ito sharing th'e' community with
34 of the airorn hundreds of miles away. We are paying dearly for this project by quality
35 Beverly' Veloshin -opposed. A letter was submitted by a. friend. This does, not ,comply
36 with the Geneial Plan, this project in the center of town shouldnot;be generating the:
37 highest .level.. of traffic; this will result 'in pollution tai the River and ~ will. increase
38 flooding;. the added .revenues wi 1 not off-set added puble expenses and degradation in
39 the quality of our Gives; a master plan should be' completed'" before any -major
4o development occurs.
4i Don Waxman,. 2705 Eastman -Lane - CEQA requires a review of alternative sites.
42 'This: was: cursory and. perfunctory., If'Chelsea is willing to do what he .says, this ":s_hould
43 e done downtown at the rail station for instance or the .auto agency facilities "that will
44 be vacated when auto row opens. Tfie,City~should;be innovative .and creative.
a5 Robert _Boccabella, supports. ,President of the Chamber of- Corrimerce". The Board of
46 Directors supports the concept provided the EIR addresses and mitigates. concerns.
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Vol. 26, Page .159
1 Wendy Alfsen-Cleveland, 1100 Gossage, opposes. Addressed the already approved
2 EIR, the Archaeological Survey,. the Biological Mitigation Plan and proposed
3 conditions of approval. Her comments were also submitted in writing.
4 John Quinn, 2318 Magnolia .Avenue -some .consideration should be given to the type
5 of merchandise that. may be sold. Will there be fur stores or eelskin products? The
6 conflict in the Middle East is over oil, and this project will increase the amount of oil
7 that is consumed. We pay 1/3 what the. world market pays for gasoline. Will higher
s gasoline prices affect the viability~of this .project? Will there be enough parking. How
9 soon would Rainier overcrossing be available for use. if it were begun today?
l0 Clayton Engstrom, 28 Post Street -supports. I am looking forward to shopping here.
11 Matt Maguire, 626 .East DStreet -opposes. You talk about clean air. The best way to
12 keep air clean is to reduce the use of automobiles. What about the additional trash to
13 our landfills from this project?
14 Ray Peterson, 636 Gossage Avenue -has "great concern about the traffic at the
15 intersection of Gossage and Petaluma Blvd. `North. We don't have benefit of your fire
16 department and we do not have at least a five' minute response from Penngrove. In
17 response to his query-about funding the flood fix and Rainier, City Manager Scharer
is noted $5 Million redevelopment funds are set aside for the flood fix and to Rainier.
19 The balance will have to be paid by other financial methods.
20 Mike Bohn,. 294 Cleveland Lane - opposes. You talked about rail access. Nobody
21 shops by rail transportation. Profits will go to New Jersey. Only tax dollars will stay
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23 Sue Worley, 816 Cleveland -had left the meeting early but she left her speaker card
24 noting she opposes the project.
2s Letters from the following individuals were submitted, to the City Clerk: Dorothy
26 Morgan-Fleet, 315 Olympic Court - submitted.:asletter in opposition.
27 David Keller left a letter with additional suggestions' for amendments to the proposed
28 documents.
29 Leonard Jay amplified on the proposed master plan study.
3o Susan Mahoney, 4.:18:Howard -opposed.
31 Greg Waddell, Waddell:'Planning ;Services: submitted the applicant's comments on the
32 proposed documents to be approved by the'City. Council.
33 At 10:10 p.m:, the hearing was closed. In .answer to when there would be more
34 opportunity -for the public to speak, Planning Director Warren Salmons noted the
35 proiect vinll be subject ;to Site Plan Architectural Review Committee review on the
36 - outlet ~ center;. Parcels B, arid' C `will be required to go `through pretty much the same
37 review process that: Parcel-;A has; the .:Local Agency Formation Commission will also
38; have a public hearing on annexation. of the 23 acres of .Parcel C and the portion of
39 Parcel".A that is .not in the City Limits now,; the master plan for the area will have
4o input.
41 .Regarding. the, Master ::Plan, the, .Council was -unanimous in -its direction that this
42 process be paid for by Leonard' Jay, but `the consul'tarit selection and processing shall
43 be done by the City.
44 Regarding the archaeological documentation that should be in the Sonoma State and
45 local 1'ibraries, staff was directed to make that- documentation available as soon as they
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1 PRESENTATION.~Y"BROWN; VENCE AS5QC.
2 INTEGRATED WASTE` 1VIANAGEMENT
3 The goals for Local Government ~in conne_ ction with AB-939 (199:0 Statutes
4 reduce: solid waste at the source, recycle and compost to: the maximum extent) are to
feasible,
5 convert:' into usable by-.products and as last resort place in .land .disposal. The State
6 Law requires .a' 2S% reduction in solid waste .to landfills by the year 1995 `and° a 50%
7 reduction in ;Solid waste to :1_andflls by the year 20Q0. Each City and .County is
8 required to prepare' ~a 'Plan to accomplish. those -~ reductions: in solid waste: The
9 required "Elements" of these "Plans" are:.(1) 'Source .Reduction, (2) Rec cling; (3)
to Corn _ ostin , (4) S , ecial Waste,. (5) Education and Pi.~blic Information, . (6~ Disposal.
11 Facil~ty, Capacity, ~7) Funding, ($) Integration, and (9) ;H`ousehold Hazardous,Wastes:.
12 It was noted. that residential 'recycling efforts in the ~(:ity of Petaluma are far above
13 those .of other .cities: T'he emphasis will now lie on. reduction of commercial. and
14 industrial products into the solid waste stream.
15 In closing, the consultants suggested there; should. be a wide area of options. to reach
16 these ,goals;' all sectors of-the ,community will need to participate, and a;'hard look at
17 regional options should result in.aocal cost. savings:. - _ ' .
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19 At 11:00 p:m., the meeting was adjourned.
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22 Patricia E. Bernard, City Clerk
1VI: Patricia Hilligoss, Mayor
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